Eric Takabayashi wrote:
> Kevin Gowen wrote:
>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, I throw a party every time either of the
>>>> Clintons make their bonehead comments. It makes me see a parade of
>>>> elephants marching into Washington.
>>>
>>> So why did Bush have such a hard time against the man who lost
>>> against Clinton, and who else could have won, much less get a
>>> majority of the vote?
>>
>> What are you talking about?
>
> Reagan's health would have given out, but either Bush wouldn't have
> beat Clinton if he had continued.

I am still trying to figure out who the person is who lost to Clinton and
then gave Bush such a hard time.

>>>>>>> and it would still be up to a President
>>>>>>> to try to be re-elected. Why curtail a future
>>>>>>> Roosevelt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So he can foul up the domestic side like the last Roosevelt did?
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean the one who brought the US out of the Depression and got
>>>>> them through WWII?
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking of the New Deal. Funny that you mention the
>>>> Depression. Did it occur to you to wonder why it is called "Great"?
>>>
>>> Because it was serious?
>>
>> And loooooong. It was serious and loooooong on FDR's watch.
>
> He was the one who changed it.

FDR did not change the Great Depression. He insured that it was great. Learn
about Lord John Maynard Keynes, the man who was FDR's big influence. You
grouse about deficit spending? FDR was the king. Take a look at the budget
he proposed in 1934 for a wonderful example of this.

> He had to undo it, like Clinton had to
> undo what Bush and Reagan had done.

All FDR undid was the value of the dollar.

Let me guess...you went to a government school?

>>>>>>> Obviously Bush Sr., Carter, Ford did not cut
>>>>>>> it. But would Reagan or Clinton have what it takes to
>>>>>>> be elected once more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reagan has been elected once more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could he do it again after the public realized how he put future
>>>>> generations in deficit?
>>>>
>>>> What's wrong with deficit? Don't you engage in deficit spending?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Then you are very rare. Most people do, with the most obvious
>> example being home/real property ownership.
>
> Then they don't have enough money.

How do you define having enough money? Such ownership is generally
considered an investment. It is wise to borrown money in order to make
money.

> Going into debt for property
> ownership is only useful if values rise at an attractive rate, or one
> cares to commit themselves for a few decades of residence or
> repayment.

Then you feel that no one should ever have a car payment?

>>> With the possible exception of a house, I do not need to spend
>>> more than I have at the time, much less more than I will ever be
>>> able
>>> to pay for.
>>
>> Then if you have a house, you are engaging in deficit spending,
>> unless you paid for the house in full.
>
> And pay for real estate in full for personal use or investment
> purposes is what I can currently do, with or without help from my
> wife or family.

I don't understand. You use the present tense rather than the past tense. Is
the real estate paid for or not?

>>> I do not dig ever deeper financial holes for myself and
>>> my family like administrations of Japan or the US, deliberately or
>>> otherwise.
>>
>> You never borrow money?
>
> No. Why should I?

I am not telling you that you should. I am simply surprised.

> I only use my credit cards so I don't have to write
> checks or carry excess cash, and pay it off in full every month.
>
>>>> I do, as do most people. Anyway, we'll know the answer next
>>>> November.
>>>
>>> The Bush Administration is seeing to it that we have a need for
>>> tighter national security.
>>
>> Explain. It seems to me that the Bush Administration is fulfilling
>> the need for tighter national security.
>
> It is the administration's hard line, tough talking policy and
> military actions, that created the need for tighter national
> security.

Explain.

> Perhaps Bush would like to go the way of Israel.

I wish the hell we would. El Al-style airline security would be a good
start. Israel does not fuck around.

-- 
Kevin Gowen