Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!honnetnews!news.gw.fukushima-u.ac.jp!news.tains.tohoku.ac.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!priapus.visi.com!orange.octanews.net!news.octanews.net!green.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!news.glorb.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: selftrans@yandex.ru (Sergey Karavashkin) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,fj.sci.matter Subject: Noskov's respond to Jeff Relf, Mark Martin and Double A Date: 26 Feb 2004 14:56:38 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 63 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.12.192.17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1077836198 6916 127.0.0.1 (26 Feb 2004 22:56:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.sci.matter:111 Dear Colleagues, As I promised, I sent your comments to the author of discussed paper, N.K. Noskov. Today I have available his reply to you all. We strongly disagree with his opinion, we already told it here, and we will state our substantiation of planets formation in the third part of our Chapter 2 which we are preparing for publication. None the less, respecting the right of author, we post you his notice. Sergey **************** COSMOGONIC HYPOTHESIS by N.K. Noskov Interesting, what do think the cosmologists when observing the comets, fireballs, meteorites? What do they suppose, seeing the "rains" of meteors that each year at the same time fall onto the Earth? Don't they think these pieces of iron, stone either ice have been ejected by some volcano on the Earth or Mars? Don't they forward a hypothesis that Cosmos throws these stones from the far emptiness? Would not it be more logic to suppose that the ejected matter - particles, nuclei and atoms - is the product of star development? We permanently see by our own eyes the cases corroborating such hypothesis: our own star - Sun permanently ejects the substance in the state of plasma to the space through its dark spots. Some part of ejected matter returns to Sun, a part flies away to the far cosmos, away from the Sun system, and a part (most important for us) settles in the stable orbits as the rings (such as Saturn and Jupiter have) in which the planets habit [1]. Already in the rings, the matter unifies into conglomerates. If propitious conditions, when these rings are distanced enough and do not interfere with each other, there originate the nuclei of planets. When the nucleus already has arisen, it gradually absorbs all the mass of ring, replicating in smaller scale the initial development of star: its heating and creation of electron envelope [2]. The laws of mechanics are such that the ellipticity of the body and possibly inclination of its orbit [3] depend on its mass and speed. Therefore, being seemingly in the same orbit with the Earth, meteorites collide with it only in two opposite points of its annual revolution. The earth (and all planets) absorbs the substance of ring and increases in size. When the planet has formed, it created the potential field around it; this means, stable orbits appeared around it, and in them also can settle the matter elected by Sun and, possibly, by planet, when it was melted. So the satellites of planets began to form... In the past, when the Sun was larger, its dark spots ejected much more plasma into cosmos (Schatzman). So formation of rings in the stable orbits, and then planets of them, occurred very intensively. References: 1.N.K. Noskov. Stability of a solar system. http://n-t.org/tpe/ng/uss.htm 2.N.K. Noskov. The cosmological cosmogonic nebular hypothesis. http://n-t.org/tpe/ng/kgng.htm 3.N.K. Noskov. The phenomenon of retarded of potential. http://n-t.org/tpe/ng/yzp.htm