Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.jone-system.com!mmcatv.co.jp!news.moat.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr33.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!6baca155!not-for-mail From: "Musashi" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan,soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan References: <1v00d.14214$FV3.14160@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> <%610d.14217$FV3.7873@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> <2qcjbiFst5tkU1@uni-berlin.de> <2qcmltFtp9kgU3@uni-berlin.de> <2Ik0d.9604$ZC7.722@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> <_Nh2d.3030$eu6.1057@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: gifts for Japanese Lines: 65 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.135.52.85 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr33.news.prodigy.com 1095432178 ST000 12.135.52.85 (Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:42:58 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:42:58 EDT Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: [[OER\_D]JVUCRLXCZHL^QTDEZXXPGLLEXRZKB]MPXHJUZ]CDVW[AKK[J\]^HVKHG^EWZHBLO^[\NH_AZFWGN^\DHNVMX_DHHX[FSQKBOTS@@BP^]C@RHS_AGDDC[AJM_T[GZNRNZAY]GNCPBDYKOLK^_CZFWPGHZIXW@C[AFKBBQS@E@DAZ]VDFUNTQQ]FN Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:42:58 GMT Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:18535 "Sean Holland" wrote in message news:BD6F7CFF.1149E%seanholland@pants.telus.net... > in article _Nh2d.3030$eu6.1057@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com, Musashi at > Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp wrote on 9/16/04 7:53 AM: > > > > > "Sean Holland" wrote in message > > news:BD6E24B3.11452%seanholland@pants.telus.net... > >> in article K8Z1d.2756$cz7.1899@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com, Musashi at > >> Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp wrote on 9/15/04 8:24 AM: > >> > >>> > >>> I am now playing with the idea that the term 東洋人 which was in use up > > to > >>> WWII and immediately > >>> thereafter has been replaced by アジア人 in 日本語 because "Oriental" > > has > >>> been replaced > >>> by "Asian" in the English Language. > >>> > >>> musashi > >>> > >> > >> The Japanese I know in Canada use 東洋人 quite frequently. There are lots > > of > >> Asians of the Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. persuasion around to > > elicit > >> the term. The many Indo-Canadians are referred to as インド人. The many > >> Filipino folks and others from that section of the globe get 東南アジア 人. > > I > >> don't recall hearing just アジア人 much from the Japanese folks I know > >> around here, but they may not be a representative sample: organic farmers, > >> Esperanto types, 靈氣 types and so on. No right wing bigots or xenophobes, > >> and maybe none that would fall comfortably into the category "normal." > >> > > > > I addressed this point in another post. But I refer to your line.. > > "The Japanese I know in Canada use 東洋人 quite frequently" > > Those Japanese are in Canada, not in Japan everyday where they would become > > aware > > of changes in word usage in the Japanese language. Hence they retain > > whatever they > > "came over with" unless they go back to Japan and for some reason notice > > that > > a word they use (which was perfectly valid xx-years ago) is no longer in > > vogue. > > > > Musashi > > > > > > Or perhaps they have become a little less insular and bit more worldly. > Yes, that's the other side of the coin.