"Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
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> "necoandjeff" <spam@schrepfer.com> wrote in message
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> > "Musashi" <Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp> wrote in message
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> > > "Paul Blay" <ranma@saotome.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > > > "（＠＾▽＾＠）" wrote ...
> > > > > 何でjapanなのに英語が多いのだろう？
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/groups?threadm=ch2osh%24anu%241%40taurus.stellar.co.jp
> > > >
> > > > によると「外国人の日本での生活に関する話題」が話題です。
> > > >
> > > > 外国人といえば、英語ですね。
> > >
> > >
> > > なぜ外国人なら英語と決まってるのですか？
> > > putain fait chier, bordel!
> >
> > Nice mouth you have there.
> >
> > Do you wish to compare the number of people in the world who can
> communicate
> > in French against the number of people in the world who can communicate
in
> > English? What languages do you use to communicate with people here in
slj?
> I
> > can understand (and even sympathize with) your dislike of the fact that
> > English has become the de facto lingua franca of the world, but you
cannot
> > change reality my friend.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
>
> Chill out Jeff.
> My comment was the relationship between "gaikokujin" and "English".
> No one can deny that in practice English is the defacto Global language.
> But there are people who disagree, and feel that French, Spanish should
> be the "global language".
> At the expense of being redundant, 外国人 includes plenty of people
> from African and South American countries, who do not speak English.
> So...perhaps the gaikokujin in the definition of this NG ought to be
> corrected.

Listen, nobody bristles more than me at the typical Japanese in Japan who
approaches the typical gaijin, makes a gigantic assumption and promptly
launches into English. But my beef with that scenario is that the person
didn't try Japanese first, or at least ask if the person speaks English
before launching into English (that's an issue of manners more than it is
one of assumptions.) When you are in Japan, I think Japanese should be the
default language for everyone. Once it has been determined that someone does
not speak Japanese, then it is okay to proceed to finding a language with
which you can communicate with the person. But none of this changes the fact
that it is still far more likely (and thus a safe assumption) that such a
person (whether from Africa, Europe, North America, etc.) will be able to
communicate in English as an alternative to Japanese. In other words, once
it has been determined that the person cannot speak Japanese, making the
assumption that they can communicate in English is a safe one. But you
should still confirm that that is indeed the case before launching into
English.

Jeff