in article objqr05db03t9bpcjqf8047vsk38k9qn78@4ax.com, Michael Cash at
mikecash@buggerallspammers.com wrote on 12/13/04 5:07 PM:

> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:01:53 +0900, Ernest Schaal
> <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> brought down from the Mount tablets
> inscribed:
> 
>> in article 41BCDB48.60508@yahoo.com, John W. at worthj1970@yahoo.com wrote
>> on 12/13/04 8:59 AM:
>> 
>>> Raj Feridun wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:22:07 -0600, "John W." <worthj1970@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Raj Feridun wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>>> Since when does being honest equal being mean-spirited?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Surely you're don't have to ask this question. Not here.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If Chris had a really useful and informative site about Japan as he
>>>> advertised and got pummeled with negative comments about it anyway it
>>>> would have been mean-spirited.
>>>> 
>>>> It's clearly a case of hurt feelings by a guy who was fishing for
>>>> compliments and got honest opinions instead.
>>>> 
>>> Last I checked he advertised that it was a site about Japan and himself,
>>> not a site offering wonderful advice and information. Besides, I don't
>>> think that would have mattered; probably would have made his initiation
>>> worse.
>>> 
>>> Not that I'm innocent; I just openly admit that we're a bit harsh on
>>> anyone new, particularly if there's an opening for criticism. It's our
>>> own form of hazing.
>>> 
>>> John W.
>> 
>> I think part of it is to destroy any innocence or joy in newcomers and make
>> them bitter trolls like Kaz, Raj Feridun, and Outland. Too bad
> 
> Raj got <thugspeak>jumped in</thugspeak> to the group pretty soundly.
> I don't know if he's bitter or not, but I hardly think he's a troll.

Mike,

Sorry, but I think you are wrong on this one. Raj is more of a Kaz-type
troll than an Outland-type troll, mainly because he is so bitter. Maybe you
have seen an occasional message from him that was informed and
knowledgeable, but I have not. He is in my killfile, so I don't see his
messages anymore, unless incorporated by another poster.