Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.tutrp.tut.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.ac.jp!nfeed.gw.nagoya-u.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!ns04b.ous.ac.jp!nd-os001.ocn.ad.jp!dojima-n0.hi-ho.ne.jp!not-for-mail From: Ernest Schaal Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.scottish,soc.culture.china,fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Why do chinks hate japs and not brits? Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:26:25 +0900 Organization: hi-ho Internet. Lines: 137 Message-ID: References: hi-ho.ne.jp> <2n9sd.425227$nl.158291@pd7tw3no> <41b1635a.14925071@news> <41b202f9.12494155@news> <41b24617.7524189@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: gif3-p81.flets.hi-ho.ne.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dojima-n0.hi-ho.ne.jp 1102246059 32553 219.126.220.81 (5 Dec 2004 11:27:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: dojima-n0.hi-ho.ne.jp NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 11:27:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.5.030814.0 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:23169 in article 41b24617.7524189@news, MichilĖn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on 12/5/04 8:53 AM: > On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 05:04:33 +0900, Ernest Schaal > wrote: > >> in article 41b202f9.12494155@news, MichilÃn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on >> 12/5/04 3:48 AM: >> >>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:46:15 +0900, Ernest Schaal >>> wrote: >>> >>>> in article 41b1635a.14925071@news, Michilˆn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on >>>> 12/4/04 4:23 PM: >>>> >>>>> I disagree. I'm a native Scot who lives in Vancouver and I would say >>>>> that Canada is a lot more civilized than the US which is composed of >>>>> former German and *nglish redneck peasantry like George Wanker Bush. >>>>> >>>>> Just over a million Americans have chosen to live in Canada. I think >>>>> that must mean something as Canada is a tough country to get into >>>>> unless you have money, a good education and qualifications the country >>>>> wants. It's certainly not interested in people whose resumes speak >>>>> warmly of packing groceries at Safeway. It also has a surfeit of >>>>> lawyers, unless you're in the F. Lee Bailey class and can afford to >>>>> keep a Lear sitting in your driveway, turbines on low power in case an >>>>> ambulance screams past... >>>>> >>>>> Michilˆn >>>> >>>> I realize that you have issues with America, both as an Brit and as a >>>> resident of Canada, but those issues seem to be due more to jealously than >>>> anything else. >>> >>> I have in fact had two opportunities to become American and rejected >>> both. Jealousy is not the problem - your culture simply have nothing >>> to offer that I want and much I depise. >>> >>> In fact, I find that one of the most ludicrous suggestions I've read >>> on Usenet. As a Scot, I'm accustomned to Americans telling me they >>> wish they were Scottish. The idea of wanting to be American is a joke! >> >> Funny, I never wanted to be Scottish. The thought just never entered my >> mind. A lot of people want to be Americans, more than America is willing to >> accept. > > With a name like Schaal, who's surprised? I imagine your relatives > were hoping to be Argentinian or Paraguayan after WWII. Like Adolf > Eichmann. > >>>> Canada is not a bad place to live. In many ways, Vancouver is like the >>>> Seattle area, and Toronto reminds me of cities in cities in the industrial >>>> Northeast. On the other hand, it is not a major player when it comes to the >>>> arts, or to finance, or to political power, and that seems to bother some >>>> Canadians. >>>> >>>> Over the decades I have followed Canadian news because I found it >>>> interesting how they adjust, or don't adjust, to being next to a much more >>>> powerful neighbor and because life in Canada doesn't seem that radically >>>> different from that in the States. I have found the partisan politics >>>> interesting, the deep discord and bitterness existing between the different >>>> regions, and the general dislike of Ontario (and the central government) by >>>> nearly all the other providences. I have followed the problems they had >>>> with >>>> the migration of Asians and minorities to Canada, and I have followed the >>>> problems remaining with living with the indigenous people of Canada. >>>> Therefore, spare me the myth of a Canadian utopia or Canada being more >>>> "civilized" than the US. >>> >>> You've obviously taken a profound interest in Canada when you don't >>> even know that the Canadian equivalent of states are called >>> "Provinces" and not "Providences". >> >> So I had a typo. This is the USENET. Things are written quickly. > > Wenn Englisch zu sprechen, ein Problem f¸r Sie ist, ich kann Deutsch, > den ich von einem Lehrer in der Schule, die ein Absolvent der > Heidelberg Universit”t war, und danach unterrichtet wurde, ich > verbrachte in Berlin irgendeine Zeit und war f”hig, meinen > umgangssprachlichen Deutschen noch mehr zu verbessern. > > (If speaking English is a problem for you, I speak German which I > learned in school from a teacher who was a graduate of the University > of Heidelberg and after that I spent some time in Berlin and was able > to improve my colloquial German even more.) > >> >> Yes, I have had a continuing interest in Canada, mainly because they are so >> like America in many ways, but different. Particularly interesting was >> watching the internal politics and how they react to living to a more >> powerful, more famous neighbor. >> >> One reaction is paranoia, including a best selling novel a few years ago a >> US president invading Canada and making Canada the fifty-first state. > > Hardly paranoia - I happen to be a professional writer myself and I > remember reading the book and it was as interesting as say, a Nazi > invasion of Britain or the US. That hardly makes it paranoid - as I > recollect, the reviews described it as excellent, so I bought it. >> >>> I don't know how old you are - 17, 18? - but I don't think I'll be >>> relying on you for any future move I may make. I certainly won't be >>> moving to your unpleasant, obnoxious, power-crazed. thieving, bullying >>> rogue state which executes children and refuses to provide its >>> citizens with decent universal healthcare. >>> >>> The US is where Europe dumped its white trash. It sure shows. >> >> You hatred of America is obvious, but I am not convinced it is not based >> upon your own lack of self esteem and your helplessness in living in a world >> where your neighbor is so much more important to the world than you. As for >> your insults of America, thank you for proving that not all Canadians are >> civilized people. >> > Sie Sind deutsch, sind Sie nicht? Sie machen germanische Fehler, wenn > Sie Englisch schreiben. Deutsche umfassen 35% aller Amerikaner; die > gr–ūte ethnische Gruppe um die Vereinigten Staaten. Nat¸rlich macht > dies Leute nerv–s, besonders jene, die in Kanada und Mexiko wohnen. > Sie beunruhigen, daū die Vereinigten Staaten Faschisten drehen werden > und anfangen, wie wie das dritte Reich zu handeln. > > Ich bin sicher, daū Hitler immer noch in der deutschen Psyche lebt! > > (You are German, aren't you? You make German errors when writing > English. Germans comprise 35% of all Americans; the largest ethnic > group in the United States. Naturally this makes people nervous, > especially those who live in Canada and Mexico. They worry that the > United States will turn fascist and begin to act like like the Third > Reich. > > I am sure that Hitler still lives in the German psyche!) > > MichilĖn My goodness, you are a bigot. What makes you think that all German-Americans supported Hitler, or even most of them?