Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.tutrp.tut.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.ac.jp!nfeed.gw.nagoya-u.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!news-gw1.ocn.ad.jp!news-gw2.ocn.ad.jp!nd-os001.ocn.ad.jp!dojima-n0.hi-ho.ne.jp!not-for-mail From: Ernest Schaal Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.scottish,soc.culture.china,fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Why do chinks hate japs and not brits? Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 05:04:33 +0900 Organization: hi-ho Internet. Lines: 86 Message-ID: References: hi-ho.ne.jp> <2n9sd.425227$nl.158291@pd7tw3no> <41b1635a.14925071@news> <41b202f9.12494155@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: gif1-p114.flets.hi-ho.ne.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dojima-n0.hi-ho.ne.jp 1102190748 11188 219.126.224.115 (4 Dec 2004 20:05:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: dojima-n0.hi-ho.ne.jp NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:05:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.5.030814.0 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:23120 in article 41b202f9.12494155@news, MichilĚn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on 12/5/04 3:48 AM: > On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:46:15 +0900, Ernest Schaal > wrote: > >> in article 41b1635a.14925071@news, MichilĂn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on >> 12/4/04 4:23 PM: >> >>> I disagree. I'm a native Scot who lives in Vancouver and I would say >>> that Canada is a lot more civilized than the US which is composed of >>> former German and *nglish redneck peasantry like George Wanker Bush. >>> >>> Just over a million Americans have chosen to live in Canada. I think >>> that must mean something as Canada is a tough country to get into >>> unless you have money, a good education and qualifications the country >>> wants. It's certainly not interested in people whose resumes speak >>> warmly of packing groceries at Safeway. It also has a surfeit of >>> lawyers, unless you're in the F. Lee Bailey class and can afford to >>> keep a Lear sitting in your driveway, turbines on low power in case an >>> ambulance screams past... >>> >>> MichilĂn >> >> I realize that you have issues with America, both as an Brit and as a >> resident of Canada, but those issues seem to be due more to jealously than >> anything else. > > I have in fact had two opportunities to become American and rejected > both. Jealousy is not the problem - your culture simply have nothing > to offer that I want and much I depise. > > In fact, I find that one of the most ludicrous suggestions I've read > on Usenet. As a Scot, I'm accustomned to Americans telling me they > wish they were Scottish. The idea of wanting to be American is a joke! Funny, I never wanted to be Scottish. The thought just never entered my mind. A lot of people want to be Americans, more than America is willing to accept. >> Canada is not a bad place to live. In many ways, Vancouver is like the >> Seattle area, and Toronto reminds me of cities in cities in the industrial >> Northeast. On the other hand, it is not a major player when it comes to the >> arts, or to finance, or to political power, and that seems to bother some >> Canadians. >> >> Over the decades I have followed Canadian news because I found it >> interesting how they adjust, or don't adjust, to being next to a much more >> powerful neighbor and because life in Canada doesn't seem that radically >> different from that in the States. I have found the partisan politics >> interesting, the deep discord and bitterness existing between the different >> regions, and the general dislike of Ontario (and the central government) by >> nearly all the other providences. I have followed the problems they had with >> the migration of Asians and minorities to Canada, and I have followed the >> problems remaining with living with the indigenous people of Canada. >> Therefore, spare me the myth of a Canadian utopia or Canada being more >> "civilized" than the US. > > You've obviously taken a profound interest in Canada when you don't > even know that the Canadian equivalent of states are called > "Provinces" and not "Providences". So I had a typo. This is the USENET. Things are written quickly. Yes, I have had a continuing interest in Canada, mainly because they are so like America in many ways, but different. Particularly interesting was watching the internal politics and how they react to living to a more powerful, more famous neighbor. One reaction is paranoia, including a best selling novel a few years ago a US president invading Canada and making Canada the fifty-first state. > I don't know how old you are - 17, 18? - but I don't think I'll be > relying on you for any future move I may make. I certainly won't be > moving to your unpleasant, obnoxious, power-crazed. thieving, bullying > rogue state which executes children and refuses to provide its > citizens with decent universal healthcare. > > The US is where Europe dumped its white trash. It sure shows. You hatred of America is obvious, but I am not convinced it is not based upon your own lack of self esteem and your helplessness in living in a world where your neighbor is so much more important to the world than you. As for your insults of America, thank you for proving that not all Canadians are civilized people.