Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.tutrp.tut.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.ac.jp!nfeed.gw.nagoya-u.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr14.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!9a2493fe!not-for-mail From: "necoandjeff" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan References: <1099507564.292484.79620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2uuj22F2dv4skU2@uni-berlin.de> <2uujetF2fcp7aU2@uni-berlin.de> <2v062nF2h2lumU8@uni-berlin.de> <6PTid.18276$6q2.13705@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1099845266.298938.301220@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <2v7vi1F2ife20U4@uni-berlin.de> <10otkrj24vf8122@news.supernews.com> <2v839eF2ife20U7@uni-berlin.de> <35Tjd.6379$zx1.5898@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> <2vag3hF2id489U3@uni-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Private for Raj Lines: 54 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 219.109.192.76 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr14.news.prodigy.com 1099973536 ST000 219.109.192.76 (Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:12:16 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:12:16 EST Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: FKPGG[SESJSS@^LYMRKNOPDA[X_LPO@FWY^D]\YIJYWZUYICD^RAQBKZQTZTX\_I[^G_KGFNON[ZOE_AZNVO^\XGGNTCIRPIJH[@RQKBXLRZ@CD^HKANYVW@RLGEZEJN@\_WZJBNZYYKVIOR]T]MNMG_Z[YVWSCH_Q[GPC_A@CARQVXDSDA^M]@DRVUM@RBM Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:12:16 GMT Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:21614 Kevin Gowen wrote: > necoandjeff wrote: >> Kevin Gowen wrote: >> >>> Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: >>> >>>> Kevin Gowen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> No, there are far too many adult converts to various religions. >>>> >>>> Cites, please. >>> >>> Cites to what? >>> >>> >>>> I doubt there is more than a trivial percentage of >>>> religious adherents being adult converts, unless you are counting >>>> intramural conversions like between Judaism, Christianity, and >>>> Islam. >>> >>> That doesn't even matter. He said, "You have to be fed that nonsense >>> by your parents and teachers in order to actually believe it" Thus, >>> I only need to find one person on the planet who believes without >>> having been "fed" by parents and teachers. >>> >>> I hope you'll make a better real-life lawyer than internet lawyer. >>> >>> >>>>> By the way, are all religions nonsense, or just Christianity? I'm >>>>> trying to figure out why it isolated for ridicule. Is Islam or >>>>> Hinduism more empirical? >>>>> >>>> >>>> All are ridiculous. The only time I've gotten to the point of >>>> actually screaming at someone over religion was at a Hindu trying >>>> to justify torching Moslems on the basis that their set of fairy >>>> tales gave them more right to build a temple on a patch of dirt >>>> than Islamic fairy tales gave them to build a temple on the very >>>> same patch of dirt. >>> >>> How is atheism any less based on faith and therefore any less >>> ridiculous? >> >> >> Ummm, let's see, because nobody has stressed to me the how important >> it is to believe it in the face of all evidence to the contrary... > > What is the evidence to the contrary? I was not aware that there were > empirical data regarding the existence of a diety or lack thereof. Was > it on "Science Friday"? Where did I say there is empirical evidence to the contrary?