Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.tutrp.tut.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.ac.jp!nfeed.gw.nagoya-u.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!falcon.america.net!eagle.america.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan,soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan Subject: Re: gifts for Japanese References: <1v00d.14214$FV3.14160@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> <414119D7.F57EC26C@yahoo.co.jp> <3ij0d.9585$ZC7.7348@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> From: floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) Organization: __________ Message-ID: <873c1q818t.fld@barrow.com> User-Agent: gnus 5.10.6/XEmacs 21.4.15/Linux 2.6.5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jrtCeXPtUAJt3raPtvWphm65v68= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 64 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:47:30 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.124.156.238 X-Trace: eagle.america.net 1094838566 209.124.156.238 (Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:49:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:49:26 EDT Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:18074 "Musashi" wrote: >"Vernon North" wrote in message >news:MPG.1bab6ea664143dec989984@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net... >> In article <3ij0d.9585$ZC7.7348@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, >> Miyamoto@Hosokawa.co.jp says... >> > >> > "Eric Takabayashi" wrote in message >> > news:414119D7.F57EC26C@yahoo.co.jp... >> > > Musashi wrote: >> > > >> > > > "Clint" wrote in message >> > > > news:z4%%c.10275$FX3.116071@weber.videotron.net... >> > > > > If you are doing any type of business in Japan, here's some really >> > nice >> > > > gift >> > > > > ideas for your customers or associates in Japan; >> > > > > >> > > > > http://www.FreeSpiritGallery.ca >> > > > >> > > > You know, I don't think people in Japan are aware that the word >"eskimo" >> > > > (which is the same in Japanese) is derogatory. >> > > > At least I didn't. >> > > >> > > But it's good ice cream. I also miss orange Creamsicles in Japan. The >old >> > > ones, not the new ones. >> > > >> > >> > Ah you are refering to North American Arctic Aboriginal Pies >> > >> No, those would be Inuit pies. ;-) >> >> IIRC, the objection to the word "Eskimo" is that it is a term created by >> the whites, not what they call themselves. It's a little like North >> American natives being called "indians". >> > >Or someone calling me an "asian". And since there are 1) dozens of different terms used by different groups of Eskimos to refer to themselves, 2) hundreds of different terms used by different groups of American Indians to refer to themselves, and 3) thousands of different terms used by different Asians people to refer to themselves, (and all of this because indeed there *are* dozens of different kinds of Eskimos, hundreds of different kinds of Indians, and thousands of different Asians), it does seem that the English language reasonably needs three well known terms to reference each of those three composite groups. The fact that we don't use even one word from any of the languages spoken by any of those people for those terms is irrelevant. -- FloydL. Davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com