Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!gcd.org!onodera-news!hu-eos-news!Q.T.Honey!diablo.efnet.com!efnet.com!news.moat.net!news.glorb.com!newshosting.com!c01.iad01.newshosting.com!c03.atl99!news.usenetserver.com!fe11.usenetserver.com.POSTED!6ed65d21!not-for-mail From: Raj Feridun Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Dr. Atkins Diet Sender: Raj Feridun Message-ID: <7fcr20ljl8bfqim0dh5d1afnfe0s1pouul@4ax.com> References: <1g95fd5.gkew8v24k00uN%dame_zumari@yahoo.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.640 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 44 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:42:25 EST Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:42:47 +0900 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:12029 On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 04:46:29 GMT, dame_zumari@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner) wrote: >Jason Cormier wrote: > >> On 2/13/04 2:48, in article >> bb453f4dbe65193d10f4cba6fa32a736@news.secureusenet.com, "Murgi" >> wrote: >> >> > I think it's time to give it a shot again since it's the only diet that has >> > helped... well, for some time until I got stuffed again.:-) >> > At least I was able to lose weight faster than with any other diet. >> > I have the book and know what to eat and what not, but where does one get >> > the test paper strips to measure for ketones in urine (not just 5 to 10 for >> > pharmacy shop prices)? Another thing are multi vitamins... next to the value >> > of gold here in Japan. Any suggestion? >> >> When Dr. Atkins died, he was clinically obese... > >Read a bit more--it seems that's the interpretation that certain >less-than-disinterested groups are pushing. > > If in fact the claims of the Atkins-fans are true and the good Dr. gained 60 or 70lbs in fluid weight secondary to his coma then he would have been simply overweight at his death and not clinically obese. So the best case scenario for Dr. Atkins was that he was overweight and suffering from arteriosclerosis. I don't know how his supporters can be outraged over doctors reporting the doctor's fluid weight as clinical obesity for the autopsy on one hand yet on the other hand flat out claim his arterial blockage was totally unrelated to his diet and ignoring that he was overweight in any event. I laugh at the low-carb craze in the USA right now. What a joke. I lost 35kg (I'm now 90kg, 182cm tall) about a year and a half ago by exercising daily (5km jog) and simply eating LESS period not lowering carbs. Now I maintain my weight by continuing to exercise and eating a balanced diet. There are no great secrets, shortcuts or quick-fixes to weight loss, sorry. Raj