Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!yynet.tama.tokyo.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: qed100@hotmail.com (Mark Martin) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,fj.sci.matter Subject: Re: . Of quanta and planets . Date: 2 Feb 2004 11:06:13 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 53 Message-ID: <7d087978.0402021106.773764c2@posting.google.com> References: <1cz63pwj40o8r.dlg@x.Jeff.Relf> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1075748774 13929 127.0.0.1 (2 Feb 2004 19:06:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.sci.matter:84 Jeff Relf wrote in message news:<1cz63pwj40o8r.dlg@x.Jeff.Relf>... > Hi Sergey Karavashkin , > Re: Your site , > http://angelfire.lycos.com/la3/selftrans/v4_1/contents4.html#nstar > > This is what I think you're axiom is ... > > The laws of physics , including the speed of light , > are the same regardless of one's hypothetical scale . > > Only I'd add that space, time and heat must all be scaled . > ( Where heat is fundamentally random mass-energy . > And where it's always one's incomplete information > that " Causes " any apparent randomness . ) > > What a fantastic axiom ... > A refinement to general and special relativity ... > At long last . It's only a refinement at long last if it happens to pan out observationally. Does it? > Re: The cause of the earth's magnetic field , > > I think you're saying that the heat and compression > inside our planet creates a new state of matter > which is positively charged locally , > but negatively charged outside the planet . > > Re: Sun spots and such , > > They're like flowers , aren't they ? > > I think you're saying that they explain how planets > would be formed given that > a star's centrifugal force was sufficiently large . > > The ejected matter would then form stable orbits , > creating something like " Quanta " ... planets . This stinks of Velikovsky. And it also doesn't work. How fast did the Sun have to be spinning to eject the planets? In addition, what'd happen to a piece of solar ejecta? Does it form a stable orbit? Not all by itself it doesn't. It's impossible. With no subsequent delta-V an ejectile at less than escape velocity will follow a ballistic trajectory which brings it right back into the Sun. The path starts at the Sun, and it must end there. What happens if we launch a satellite to orbit? Once it gets to apoapsis it's necessary to impart a very specific velocity change to insert it into a stable orbit which touches the apoapsis tangentially. So where are the ejectile-planets getting their extra delta-V from once they get out away from the Sun? -Mark Martin