Re: which is better US or soviet russia
"Bruce Mallory" <bm@mallory.org> wrote in message
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> "Former King of Pangea" <BigShot@TheWholeThing.org> wrote in message
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>> The SU's idea was to kill all the people before they could become
>> criminals. If you are successful, there will be no crime.
>>
>> "Pizzol Fanfaroni" <pizzol@fanfaroni.org> wrote in message
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>>> Bruce Mallory wrote:
>>>> "TXZZ" <superoutland@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>give me your opinion please soviet russia couldnt have lasted so long
>>>>>unless maybe communism wasnt as bad as people have been brainwashed to
>>>>>believe
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree ignorant Americans know nothing about Communism or about
>>>> anything, except sports and the love affairs of their movie and rock
>>>> stars. Almost nobody in the US can define or describe Communism, even
>>>> though it has so much in common with the present American Republicrat
>>>> (also known as Demopublican) dictatorship. Same huge army of government
>>>> bureaucrats. Same preoccupation with the COMMUNIty interest being more
>>>> important than that of The Individual. Same strive to take over the
>>>> world. Same believe in their system being the best in the universe.
>>>> Same push for an uncontested national religion (theirs was the
>>>> Atheism).
>>>>
>>>> The advantages of the US Republicratism: higher standard of living for
>>>> most of their people; more freedom to travel the world, more
>>>> opportunities to choose one's business or occupation.
>>>>
>>>> The advantages of the "Advanced Socialism" of the USSR: much less
>>>> crime,
>>>
>>> On whose part? If killing, enclosing in gulags and starving millions was
>>> "less crime"
>>> according to your standards, than you're right: There was a lot of "less
>>> crime" in the USSR.
>>>
>>>
>>>> less people encaged in their prisons
>>>
>>> Buahahaha. Seee above.
>>>
>>>> (I have in mind the 1970's and 80's, not the Stalinist years), overall
>>>> direction toward less and less restrictive society (the opposite of the
>>>> direction the US society is currently moving toward),
>>>
>>> It is not the direction, but the point you are moving toward, which
>>> counts.
>>> What was "more restrictive" from the American point of view.
>>> Was "less restrictive" from the Soviet point of view.
>>>
>>>> employment security, free higher education and medical care.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Buahahaha. Free "medical" care. Every American moron I meet
>>> yearns for this. They will feel how it tastes once they get it
>>> and they will have to wait in lines with all other, quite
>>> healthy, amateurs of free "care".
>>>
>>> I bet, amongst those who want to get "free" medical care
>>> are people who are in fact healthy but want to pretend
>>> they are sick, being very attracted
>>> by the magical word "free".
>>> They will see how "free" it is once they get it.
>>> They will see how more "free" medical care will
>>> get those who will have enough money to travel abroad
>>> (maybe to Soviet Russia?) or to bribe the doctors.
>>> Not that there would be a lot of such people.
>>> After all, somebody would have to pay hefty taxes
>>> to finance this "free" medical care.
>>>
>>> Those greedy morons have enough money to travel to Mexico
>>> or Spain for vacation, but don't have money to buy Aspirine
>>> for themselves and want it "free".
>>> Their stories about "excellent free medical care"
>>> abroad are based on their experiences in Spain
>>> or other countries where they were treated during vacation
>>> for some trivial conditions.
>>> They seem not to comprehend that somebody
>>> abused the system, to treat them and to
>>> play a good hospitable Samaritan, as they
>>> were uneligible to get the free treatment, in the first place
>>> and were given a preferential treatment because of their
>>> American status.
>>> What they should perceive as a sign of favoritism and abuse they
>>> perceived as a sign of superiority because they got
>>> for "free" something for which somebody else paid and
>>> was eligible.
>>>
>>> Or, maybe they simply were covered abroad by their American insurance
>>> or credit card and confused the things totally?
>>> With their almost _total_ ignorance of the outside word,
>>> foreing languages, political systems, customs and regulations
>>> all kinds of misunderstandings are possible.
>>>
>>> What I've noticed is that all the leftist of the World
>>> are ready to tell all possible and impossible lies
>>> and fantasies, trying to convince everybody to their system.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to see, how they would feel
>>> if foreigners were treated for free in an American
>>> "free" health care system, paid by American taxpayers.
>>>
>
> All the comments of my humble opinion show how totally, badly, hopelessly
> ignorant my fellow yankees are. Some are talking in the present tense, as
> if the Soviet Union still existed today. Others are clearly equating the
> Stalinist period with the entire history of the USSR. Still others claim
> that I have never been in the Soviet Union, while in reality they have
> never stepped their foot on its ground, never read any book on the
> subject, never studied that country or its political system in any at
> least a tiny-bit meaningful, analytical way.
>
> As to myself, I was a visiting professor at the Moscow State Lomonosov
> University in 1987/88. My own wife was born and raised in one of the
> former Soviet republics, and my closest friend and neighbor of the past 11
> years is a former refugee from the USSR, currently a distinguished
> professor at one of the finest American universities. Don't tell me I know
> nothing about the USSR. I know pretty much everything from the first-hand
> sources, as well as from my own experience. I stand behind every word I
> wrote.
>
> In addition to the above, I am not leftist of any kind. I am a staunch,
> life-long conservative libertarian and I despise the current socialist
> administration, which has increased the size of the federal government to
> never heard before monstrous levels of senseless and useless bureaucracy.
> Which has adopted a leftist policy of spending enormous amounts of money
> it doesn't have. Of allowing untamed illegal immigration. Of increasing
> the power of the socialist federal government, while decreasing powers of
> states. Of adopting a state-sponsored religion and promoting it in
> violation of the Constitution. Of trying to impose our form of government,
> by means of military intervention and shameless destruction, onto other
> nations of the world. Of lying to The People in the very worst tradition
> of Communism. Etc etc. etc.
>
> Bruce M.
>
mr. M
although your credentials are indeed impressive you spent the whole post
telling us of them and forgot to make your point.
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