Path: news.ccsf.jp!tomockey.ddo.jp!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.islandhosting.com!news.islandhosting.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:20:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:16:17 -0700 From: Dan Rempel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: JR Group (and Odakyu, Tokyo Metro) timetable changes March 15th 2008 References: <47daf74a$0$13855$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Organization is overrated Message-ID: <6772f0108a66784060eb166494ff4a36@grapevine.islandnet.com> X-Tracking: 47DFDCC2A6AEBA2AB2B9B307F0E8F171FBF2E774ECEDE670E2E4E675F4E4 X-Report-Abuse-To: news@islandnet.com X-NNRP-Cache: Grapevine 2.0 -- http://grapevine.islandnet.com/ Lines: 32 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.175.106.126 X-Trace: sv3-2tvD4WziraRfdsjnTBWc4eMrcNGuWbpxEwTeeUUg5dJ5yfoX6MstZb1ChEOnbDztg1QgH+EgYsm1pwY!cAwr8mxjZDotKDhG1dsdMlmj25WA8cyyls6uSd7c4jBUsrehIkOwC/l793k4ohWlPvaBx9CoFKAm!OVKJANIZrW8JpQxVtanQJCGWPW5QQFEZI+yaMD8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@islandnet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@islandhosting.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.37 Xref: news.ccsf.jp fj.life.in-japan:166979 Jim Breen wrote: > CL wrote: >> Prophet of the Way wrote: >> >>> New Narita Express cars will start service in 2009. >>> >>> http://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2007_2/20080202.pdf (J text with picture.) >> It looks as though JR East is getting incredible mileage out of that >> locomotive body design. Its the same one they use for the Azuma >> (Shinjuku - Kofu -Matsumoto), Wakashio (Tokyo-Awa Kamogawa), Fresh >> Hitachi (Ueno - Hitachi), and a lot of other special express trains >> around Kanto. Standardization probably reduces equipment acquisition >> and maintenance costs. It would be nice to see that reflected in lower >> fares. > > I used the Narita Expres once. Then I discovered how much more > convenient the Keisei line is. Faster and much cheaper, even for > the Skyliner. I've been reflexively taking the Narita Express since it's faster to Shibuya and seemed somehow spiffier and more relaxing after 9+ hours in the air, but didn't realize how much cheaper the Keisei line is; have to try it next time. Dan -- Aide to Raygun: Sir, the poor are outside protesting your budget cuts. Raygun himself: Tell them they'll have to help themselves. Aide to Raygun: Sir, the Pentagon wants another $30 billion. Raygun himself: Tell them to help themselves.