Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!news.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news1.optus.net.au!optus!newsfeeder.syd.optusnet.com.au!news.optusnet.com.au!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:12:41 +1000 From: aanbi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan,sci.lang.japan Subject: Re: Learning Japanese : Any good full time school recomendations References: <1139633551.414168.39530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43eefaf4$0$21423$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Message-ID: <43ef0a12$0$32665$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 220.237.73.190 X-Trace: 1139739154 32665 220.237.73.190 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:162004 > There I disagree. Classes can perform a number of useful functions not > least of which is "chit-chat". > It should, however, go without saying > that the number of hours you put in outside of class should far outweigh > the number of class hours. I don't think classes themselves are entirely useless (or that they would actually detract from someone's language ability) - but if for eg. someone did 5 hours of classes each week and aimed to do 5 hours outside study, I think they would be better off doing 10 hours a week self study. Factor in the tiredness from their job and attending school (leaving little energy for outside study), the fees, school commuting time and costs... overall detrimental to their life in Japan in my opinion. Unfortunately with Japanese, being immersed in the language (either in life in general or in classes) isn't so helpful... it's the sheer hard study that really advances you.