Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news-feed1.de1.concert.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: "John W." Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Private for Raj Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:52:50 -0600 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <418EDF82.5030905@yahoo.com> References: <1099507564.292484.79620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2uuj22F2dv4skU2@uni-berlin.de> <2uujetF2fcp7aU2@uni-berlin.de> <2v062nF2h2lumU8@uni-berlin.de> <6PTid.18276$6q2.13705@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1099845266.298938.301220@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de gpygqWxXT/vl3p/fQRjHrAIpFCSrnuMVS00r0p7dmcuHzy4ns7 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: ja,en Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:21481 Brett Robson wrote: > > > John W. wrote: > >> necoandjeff wrote: >> >>> Whether you call it born again or not, isn't Kevin simply >>> referring to that >>> simply wonderful Christian concept that (thanks to that nasty >>> bitch Eve) all >>> people are essentially born bad, evil people with wretched >>> souls that need >>> to be saved in order to go to heaven. And isn't it the being >>> saved part that >>> makes one "born again." >> >> >> >> I refuse to speculate what he is referring to, but whether or not >> that's the origin of 'born again' is irrelevant. These days to be born >> again means to stray from the path and then re-discover God. > > > Do bother. Gowen is Catholic, all his answers are in the cannon (he > likes rules). Anything that disagrees with that is heresy. Then he doesn't even need to worry about being born again. All he has to do is talk to a priest, rub some beads, say some magic words, and his sins magically go away. John W.