Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.tiscali.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Declan Murphy Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: What is and what isn't a criminal record? Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:44:40 +0900 Lines: 49 Message-ID: <4133F428.30000@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de JXnDJyU2GgYQTuCJJKgOCA991Jr12SPuKnBkpz+nAzC/Pb99M/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:17726 Just got back from Immigration with 62 more certificates of eligibility, and I'm sipping a celebratory Chimay Blue since the bureaucrats just told me we are the only school (again) in Japan to have gained 100% approvals for more than 50 applications. Bewdy! (Eric, you can stop reading this now) But as is their wont, they are changing the rules again so that they can reject more applicants from a certain country that must not be named but may or may not be located between Afghanistan, Bhutan, Burma, India, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Mongolia, Nepal, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan & Vietnam. The new application for a certificate of eligibility ask for a Yes/No to 犯罪を理由とする処分を受けたことの有無(日本国外におけるものも含む) If yes is circled, they want the 具体的内容 etc. What hasn't been spelt out (it appears instead to be left to self-regulation amongst the visa proxies) is whether "No" needs to be accompanied with a formal document stating "The applicant has no criminal record...", or whether the applicants themselves could provide a statement along the lines of "I hereby declare that I blah blah blah..." I suspect that they will soon prefer the former, as it would increase the amount of bribes required in the country that must not be named for an application to complete a successful application, thus increasing the overall cost of applications and reducing the number of applicants. Problem for me is defining 犯罪を理由とする処分を受けたこと - I was intending to translate it "Have you been convicted of a criminal offence", but am worried that some applicants will interpret that as including speeding/parking fines etc. Being arrested, questioned, cautioned etc apparently wouldn't be an issue. So what is a criminal record in whichever country you come from? Does it include only prison punishments and the like (suspended sentences, community service etc)? or does it also include fines? Are your parking tickets (if any) part or not part of a criminal record? Does some kid arrested once by police for possession of a small amount of marijuana for personal use and fined or cautioned have a criminal record? -- "They took you up to midnight Mass and left you in the lurch So you dropped a button in the plate and spewed up in the church." - The Sickbed of Cuchulainn