Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!easynet-quince!easynews.net!easynet-isham!easynet.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: Eric Takabayashi <etakajp@yahoo.co.jp>
Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan
Subject: Re: Initial impressions from the Japanese premier of Fahrenheit 9/11
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:57:23 +0900
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <41301EC4.9FE1F25F@yahoo.co.jp>
References: <1bfd41dbf136ae6b78abbfd36149e936@grapevine.islandnet.com> <2ose88Fd9vt9U20@uni-berlin.de> <bbaii0h84c0g86krd94e8bkl7kpnnh5paf@4ax.com> <2osoqqFd9vt9U27@uni-berlin.de> <oidii09i3k587p0mv0bfttnsbf1loi11qd@4ax.com> <2ost35Fd9vt9U29@uni-berlin.de> <luqii05cqflg0v5g61gipij6o8ue8f3u9d@4ax.com> <4129F2FF.B82967DE@yahoo.co.jp> <k83li05he3tv8hi3e599c21emcl1e0496r@4ax.com> <412B130D.152D09E9@yahoo.co.jp> <od6ti01smlo2er58iv0a4hagk7hj2b6hl8@4ax.com> <412F43A7.A413EE84@yahoo.co.jp> <muqvi056s5r0g2t0k35finhigfkv6dft7o@4ax.com>
Reply-To: etakajp@yahoo.co.jp
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de HA5Mc0wlw7MwumhpmMs++AEtyiRGs/VXuI3Gj6HyrlPZE4VMUo
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
X-Accept-Language: ja,en
Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:17592

Raj Feridun wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:22:31 +0900, Eric Takabayashi
> <etakajp@yahoo.co.jp> wrote:
>
> >Right. People who die or kill themselves before an opportunity for trial are never
> >criminals, like Hitler, the 9/11 hijackers, or the boys from Columbine.
>
> Says who? They're criminals who just happened to save us the trouble
> of euthanizing them.

It is YOU (don't snip your own post) who say we cannot label people criminals without
even the CHANCE to defend themselves. Those "criminals" had none.

If even YOU, who are so "perfectly happy" with the current system, are allowed to label
people criminals (who deserved death) without trial, why should anyone else be
restricted?

> >So you are also perfectly happy with those innocents who are punished or even
> >executed wrongly, or millions a year who do not get justice because law enforcement
> >never catches up with criminals?
>
> Yes,

Just pray crime or false accusation never involves you. I would be confident under my
own system, as criminal or victim.

I now recall that live in rural Shikoku, and have a hard time understanding what
happens in larger communities, even one as small as Fukuyama. You even pretend there
are no homeless.

> because no system is perfect unfortunately. As forensic science
> advances I think/hope it will only help to reduce such tragedies.

Then why aren't you even willing to propose that funding for law enforcement be
increased, so they can do a better job of investigation, or even that more money make
its way to public defenders? Why don't you wish their were better government or
community support for falsely or mistakenly accused or punished, instead of allowing
those lives to be "oh so easily destroyed"? Why must you claim to be "perfectly happy"
with even imperfections you claim to see?

> >Your problem is you are unaware of your problem.
>
> I have acknowledged the problems.

With yourself?