Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newspeer1.stngva01.us.to.verio.net!news.verio.net!sea-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <40968638.5090107@hotmail.com> From: Jim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Shoe buying online References: <409599B5.1070303@yahoo.com> <73fde4f0.0405030645.e82a92f@posting.google.com> <409677BA.9080203@hotmail.com> <40967CFE.5020406@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 89 Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 17:49:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.94.231.25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: sea-read.news.verio.net 1083606586 130.94.231.25 (Mon, 03 May 2004 17:49:46 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 17:49:46 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:13717 Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: > Jim wrote: > >> Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: >> >>> Jim wrote: >>> >>>> Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: >>>> >>>>> John W. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Murgi" wrote in message >>>>>> news:... >>>>>> >>>>>>> "John W." wrote in message >>>>>>> news:409599B5.1070303@yahoo.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone know a good place to buy shoes online for kids? Got a >>>>>>>> special >>>>>>>> request from the sperm child... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's a "sperm child"? Still frozen in liquid nitrogen without >>>>>>> feet to need >>>>>>> shoes? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a child of my sperm, as opposed to one of someone else's >>>>>> sperm. >>>>>> And I'm really just assuming that fact. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That you would write that in a public forum sends little chills up >>>>> my spine. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well, if he hasn't done a dna test... there's no way to >>>> be sure, is there? I've read that upwards of 30% of children born >>>> in two-parent households are not the product of the husband. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> You are twisting the percentages a bit. Blood-typing anomalies show >>> that about 10% of children don't belong to the putative father. That >>> means that about 19% of two-child families have a cuckoo, and 27% of >>> three-child families have one. Add in the cases where the father is >>> aware of the situation, and you can easily hit 30% of households for >>> the two and three kid cases. 30% of households is a lot different >>> then 30% of the kids. >>> >>> My point was that a father either thinks of his kid as his, or not. >>> Allowing yourself to live in a gray zone risks causing a lot of >>> damage to the kid. >> >> >> >> >> Well, it would (be a problem) if you think being a "father" can only >> be with your >> biological children. If John can be a "father" to any child in his >> family, whether or not he knows he/she to be his own "sperm child", >> what's >> the problem? I'm guessing you wouldn't be a very good candidate for >> adopting kids, eh? > > > Missed my point. Either he decides he's going to be a father (at which > time terms like "sperm child" become irrelevant, and make a distinction > that can only hurt the non-sperm children), or he's not (at which time, > "sperm child" is only relevant for support demands). > > KWW I guess you're right... if he's into making distinctions about which children are/aren't his biologically, probably not a good frame of mind to be in. I can imagine the wife enjoys his uncertainty as well. -Jim