Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!skynet.be!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!yahoobb218120102005.bbtec.NET!not-for-mail From: Eric Takabayashi Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Alien Registration for kids Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:00:05 +0900 Lines: 67 Message-ID: <405070E4.A5989094@yahoo.co.jp> References: <404EDA08.1000402@hotmail.com> <404F4A36.F001D8D5@yahoo.co.jp> Reply-To: etakajp@yahoo.co.jp NNTP-Posting-Host: yahoobb218120102005.bbtec.net (218.120.102.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1079013638 67079192 I 218.120.102.5 ([138107]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: ja,en Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:12556 Rafael Caetano wrote: > Eric Takabayashi wrote: > > > Rafael Caetano wrote: > (...) > >>I know some Brazilians who have also Japanese citizenship > >>but I've never heard they had to choose one of them, > > > > > > Maybe they are also Japanese citizens, the way Fujimori is a Japanese citizen, > > and Brazil did not force them to choose one or give up their other citizenship, > > the way Japan does. > > I don't know the rules, but the people I know were born in Brazil to > Japanese (as in born in Japan) parents. They have both Brazilian and > Japanese passports. > I still don't understand. If Japan forces them to give up their other > citizenship, what does it matter whether Brazil does the same? You are talking about if Japan actually investigated if their citizens give up any other citizenship. Apparently, they don't check that well, as Debito who became a naturalized Japanese citizen, and foreigners who've had children grow up dual citizens, retaining their foreign citizenship while declaring Japanese citizenship, have shown. Therefore people like your Brazilian friends are able to remain dual citizens as adults. > Is it that Japan doesn't have the means to _enforce_ the rule? Sure they do. They could simply try inquiring at foreign consulates or embassies, or checking at Immigration to be sure the visas and stamps in passports are in order. The way Immigration bureaus are not choosy about how they stamp my children's' passports would make it obvious they are using more than one (the US demands dual citizens present both passports when traveling). And if the government found out people were dual citizens against Japanese law, they could do something to penalize the offenders, like stripping them of Japanese citizenship, or not recognizing their foreign citizenship. But then, Japan should scrap their old law and allow multiple citizenship and nationality by birth anyway. > I wouldn't think so, because the Japanese consulate in Brazil is well > aware of people above 18 with double citizenship. How do they know that the people are also Brazilian citizens if they don't tell the consulate? > Perhaps it's a exception to Brazilians? > > -- > Rafael Caetano -- If Gibson decides to make his next film about Rasputin or that Utah hiker who had to cut off his arm after it got trapped under a boulder, it might be time for him to seek professional help. - Jon Niccum, Entertainment Editor http://www.mercycorps.org/ http://www.mercycorps.org/items/1398/ http://www.mercycorps.org/mercykits.php Mercy Corps' goal in Iraq is to work with conflict-affected communities to meet their urgent needs while also providing a firm foundation for the future development of economic opportunities and civil society.