Declan Murphy wrote:

> Eric Takabayashi wrote:
> > Declan Murphy wrote:
> >
> >>While it is strange, it is perfectly understandable. Views are formed
> >>through the filter of media, media that reflects commercial and national
> >>interests, and I very much doubt that the average US and Turkish
> >>citizens watch/read the same media.
> >
> > Sure.
> >
> > Does media distortion, propaganda or government lies, make the actual needs of
> > tens of millions of Iraqis any more irrelevant?
>
> The reply above is ludicrous. My remarks were strictly concerning the
> perceptions US/Turkish audiences are likely to have towards each other
> concerning exactly what NATO requirements may involve. If you are going
> to try to use them out of context, by all means feel free to do so, but
> understand that in that case I wouldn't see any point in continuing a
> discussion with a fruit loop.

It is I who try to have a conversation with people who ignore others' needs.

> >>I would also add that you should not make assumptions as to what other
> >>people have experienced in regard to terrorism, whether that be in
> >>Northern Ireland or through the loss of a friend in Bali, or the
> >>assassination of a family member's uncle in Kashmir.
> >
> > Why should I not see them, like tens of millions of Iraqis or any local homeless,
> > as people in need, human beings who deserve better than the nothing the entire
> > rest of the world may be giving them?
>
> Because it would be presumptuous in the least.

I shouldn't see your loved ones in Iraq or those killed as people in need?

Ok. Forget them. I'll help Iraqis and impoverished people.

> Your response above makes
> it perfectly obvious that you didn't understand who I was referring to
> in my reply to Hibijibi.

So make me understand, Mr I have three jobs and started two companies man. What are
you doing for Iraqis other than bitch about the US?

> --
> "Beyond the Euphrates began for us the land of mirage and danger, the
> sands where one helplessly sank, and the roads which ended in nothing.
> The slightest reversal would have resulted in a jolt to our prestige
> giving rise to all kinds of catastrophe; the problem was not only to
> conquer but to conquer again and again, perpetually; our forces would be
> drained off in the attempt." - Emperor Hadrian AD 117-138

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