Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!onodera-news!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!peernews3.colt.net!newsfeed.stueberl.de!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!p01!fed1read06.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3FC138AF.D30AEDFD@hate.spam.net> From: Uncle Al Organization: The Noble Krell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,de.sci.physik,fr.sci.physique,alt.sci.physics,fj.sci.physics Subject: Re: Salaries of US Scientists Drop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:46:07 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.5.243.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: fed1read06 1069627507 68.5.243.16 (Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:45:07 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:45:07 EST Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.sci.physics:574 jsp wrote: > > During the past two years, the salaries of > most scientists including physicists have decreased significantly. > See > http://www.jupiterscientific.org/sciinfo/sciencesalaries.html 1) Why do you need technical personnel, 2) Why do you need senior technical personnel, 3) Why do you need domestic hires, 4) Why is your infrastructure in the US? 1) You must innovate or the competition wins. The MBA solution is the cigarette adverising model - if everybody agrees not to do it, then nobody has to foot the bill. 2) You absolutely don't. MBAs know chrome domes are as fungible as computer cards. Pull one, insert a newer cheaper one. As long as everybody plays by the rules... see (1). 3) You absolutely don't. Bring something in from Russia, India, or China and trade opportunity (not on a spreadsheet) for costs (on a spreadsheet). You are going to dump them in five years anyway, see (2). 4) No sane person would do R&D in the US: OSHA, EPA, Haz-Mat, BATF, War on Drugs, Homeland Severity, wages, benefits, retirement, general liability, sex and race lawsuits. Go to British Colombia and all that crap vanishes, plus the Canuckistan government gives you a major blowjob for importing economic incentives. A chemist getting $25K/annum in Canada is hot shit. Folks speak English, too, and there is British Common law. Avoid the Canukistan East Coast like the plague. The MBA model is like an eggshell. If anybody external flips a finger at it, it shatters. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!