Ken Yasumoto-Nicolson wrote:

> I'm yet to progress to the um-ing and aw-ing in Japanese phase, so I
> don't know if it naturally follows, but I know a couple of gaigin who
> regularly point to the nose, rather than to the chest, to indicate
> "self". To me it always looks like a forced gesture, but I've never
> actually asked the people who do it if it's natural or not, just in
> case they get offended or something. I'm no psychologist or whatever,
> but I would think that it must be forced. What do you lot think?
>
> Ken

I do it by accident.