Re: Why Koreans hate Japanese
Please trim your headers. This threat is certainly of little interest
to alt.history.
John Yamamoto-Wilson wrote:
> Kaz:
>
>
>>Why does having Japanese wife explain that you are not a racist? Isn't
>>it a strange logic? As far as I know, a lot of racists have Japanese
>>wife though.
>
>
> Sad to say, I suppose you are right. But they can't love their wives, can
> they (except
> perhaps in the same way some people love their pets)? I am not married to an
> acronym ( a "BYJW"), but to a fully-fledged human being and (jeez, this is
> embarassing - if I'd known what I was letting myself in for getting into
> this thread maybe I wouldn't have started!) yes, I do love her.
>
>
>>Your cultural back ground....primitive ethnocentric racists in the
>>18th century who treat anyone inhabiting outside of your little island
>>as subhuman.
>
>
> Permit me to know a little more about my cultural background than you do. My
> great great great grandfather was a coal miner (back in the late 18th or
> early 19th century). At six o'clock in the morning he had to go under the
> ground and enter narrow passages to chip out coal in choking, inhuman
> conditions. He would make lunch of a bit of bread and cheese and an apple.
> At six in the evening he would be free to go home, have a bath and some
> supper and go to bed. He did this six days a week except at Christmas,
> Easter and one or two other special occasions. Oh, I forgot to mention, he
> was nine years old when he started.
>
> That was on my father's side. His family was forced out of Scotland during
> the enclosures of the 18th century and found work in the Newcastle area. I
> owe my great great great grandfather a special debt of gratitude because if
> I had had to do what he did I would surely have died long before reaching
> childbeaqring age, and then I wouldn't be here now (if you see what I mean).
> My mother's family was Irish. Catholic Irish. If you know your history you
> will know that during the 18th century the Catholic Irish were denied the
> right to an education, to own property, even to eat properly.
>
> And that, too, is a lot more than I planned on divulging about myself when I
> let myself get drawn into this thread!
>
> As Bob Marley (one of those "colored" whom, according to you, I regard as
> subhuman) said, "If you know your history, you will know where you're coming
> from" (I will never forget going to Hammersmith Odeon to see him and the
> Wailers perform), and if you can explain why I would feel congenitally
> superior because of my ancestry, you explain it to me.
>
>
>>Maybe the last land in the globe that treat coloreds as
>>animals or subhumans.
>
>
> I only wish you were right. However, if you care to check the records for
> casualties among the prisoners of war treated as slaves by the Japanese
> during World War II you will find a disproportionate number of what you call
> "coloreds". Try here for starters:
> http://www.gunplot.net/kwairailway/siamburmarailway.html. Even sadder is the
> fact that the entire population of present-day Burma (a land that Japan, in
> collusion with the criminals who run that country, calls "Myanmar") is *even
> now* being treated as "animals or subhumans" by the military government
> which controls the country.
>
>
>>According to your logic defining that racists are subhuman, I think
>>whites are generally more subhuman than any other race, and the most
>>race that keeps the subhuman behavior stubbornly. So what is so
>>awesome about the fact that whites having subhuman behavior? Did it
>>come from the racist's self-conscious superiority complex existing in
>>the deep realm of your subconscious?
>
>
> Yawn. Try again, Kaz. Psychoanalysis doesn't appear to be your strong point.
> You accuse me of taking a white supremacist viewpoint, then when I point out
> that such a viewpoint is equally subhuman you attack me. My own racial group
> has nothing to do with this. Whether it's you and Supertech, an Ulster
> loyalist and a Catholic, a Futu and a Tutsi or a Serb and a Croat it's all
> the same to me; or didn't you understand me the first time around?
>
>
>>Once Supertech showed his extreme racial contempt against us, it takes
>>a while to comeback to normal mode.
>
>
> I suppose that's the closest we'll come to agreement. You accept that your
> language wasn't "normal mode" (though from what I've seen of your posts it's
> not all that aatypical). To me your language was identical to his - the
> subhuman barking of a man turned feral.
>
>
>>Supertech is not the only one who
>>has such a strong hatred against us. Most Koreans are having such
>>extreme, aggressive contempt and hostile feelings against us more than
>>those anti-jap kinda people like Dutch, New Zealanders or Chinese. And
>>then Koreans point nuclear missile to us and threaten us. (Except
>>those Silla Koreans, basically and racially N.Koreans and S.Koreans
>
>
> OK, so you feel threatened and angry at being the object of such hatred. But
> when you return the same kind of hatred the other party also feels
> threatened and angry, and so it goes on until it comes to blows. Insults are
> a bad form of communication. Returning the insults is equally bad
> communication.
>
>
>>Those extreme words are just very good to express one's emotional
>>attitudes. I believe that humans need to be more honest and natural.
>
>
> Oh, OK. I agree that humans should be honest and natural.
>
> It seems we don't really have a problem here. You have a right, if you
> choose, to use the nastiest insults you can think of, and I have the right,
> if I choose, to comment that such insults are subhuman drivel. If it's any
> comfort, I have on occasion stooped to insult, and I have, on reflection,
> realised - a\nd admitted - that my words were unworthy.
>
>
>><the rest snipped>
>
>
> Thank goodness! I have a life to live, a job to do and a family to love; I
> don't have time to continue this conversation indefinitely!
>
> --
> John
> http://rarebooksinjapan.com
>
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