Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!onodera-news!ebi!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone3.kc.rr.com!news3.kc.rr.com!twister.neo.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3DF5775E.80909@woh.rr.comNOSPAM> From: Dmitrii PapaGeorgio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021003 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.korea,alt.talk.korean,japan.asia.korea,soc.culture.korean Subject: Re: Why the SOFA is so uncomfortable - a Korean's Point of View References: <6103-3DEA5D48-636@storefull-2132.public.lawson.webtv.net> <2gKG9.11838$31.3609@nwrddc03.gnilink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 108 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:23:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.210.131.96 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.neo.rr.com 1039497835 24.210.131.96 (Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:23:55 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:23:55 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org japan.asia.korea:328 That is incorrect - if everybody at kim-chi in this world, we would be farting cabages, killing ourselves to death. DO you see my logic here? -A Harvard grad. min10011 wrote: > "G. Rush" wrote in message > news:zDOG9.25550$ic6.18271@nwrddc01.gnilink.net... > >>"min10011" wrote in message >>news:wIKG9.192410$gB.38901841@twister.nyc.rr.com... >> >>>"G. Rush" wrote in message >>>news:2gKG9.11838$31.3609@nwrddc03.gnilink.net... >> > >>>No question that South Korea would defeat North Korea in war. What most >>>non-Koreans simply cannot understand is that the primary objective of >> >>every >> >>>Korean in the world is to see a peaceful reunification. North and South >> >>are >> >>>one people divided by ideology. Just as in the American Civil War, the >>>final objective is to restore a divided nation and not to punish or >> >>destroy >> >>>an enemy. >> >> Yes, while you wait for reunification, the North Korean people >>suffer. If it was a foreign power torturing, starving and oppressing the >>North Korean people, would South Korea idly sit by and do nothing? > > > Since North Korea is not being oppressed by a foreign power what do you > propose that South Korea do? > > > >> I hope not. And the point of the American Civil War was that it HAD >> to be fought to preserve the nation. Of course Americans wanted peace, >> but sometimes war is the only option. > > > I detect a very hawkish theme running through almost all of your posts. > Surely you are not saying that South Korea should wage war against North > Korea. > > > >>>> US would not beg Koreans to let them stay either. The main >>> > point > >>>of >>> >>>>US presence is deter Kim Jongil from launching an attack against South >>>>Korea. >>> >>>That is not the main point of the US presence in South Korea. It is an >>>important point, but only to the extent that war would severely disrupt >> >>the >> >>>American economy and catastrophically destabilize the politico-economic >>>balance of East Asia. >> >> War in the Korean peninsula will not severly disrupt the American >>economy and would not affect the politico-economic balance of East Asia. > > The > >>South Korea needs American troops because no foreign investment would flow >>into South Korea otherwise. With the aggressive North, American presence >>assures foreign investors that it is safe to invest in South Korea. > > > The foreign (American) investments in Korea and bi-lateral trade levels are > very high, and damage to them will severely disrupt the American economy. I > have never heard of anyone disputing that. A war in Korea would be far more > destructive and costly than Grenada, Somalia, Kuwait, Bosnia or whatever > armchair war in recent times that Americans have gotten so dangerously used > to. > > In the near-term it is true that the defense of the Korean peninsula itself > is not immediately vital to American security. But what too many lay > Americans like you fail to understand is that there are deep-rooted > historical rivalries among China, Russia, and Japan for dominance in the > region. For many centuries other powers converged in Korea and wars were > fought for control because of her strategic position. I feel certain that > there will be future conflicts, maybe military, maybe economic, but > conflicts that will arise because the US had forfeited her leadership in the > region. Even if the US feels herself safely removed from any potential > conflict in the region (whether between the two Koreas or between the larger > powers) the US cannot feel safe knowing that inevitably she must contend > with a more militarily, economically, and ideologically strengthened China > or Russia or possibly Japan. > > p.s. your posting style is hard to read. Perhaps putting a line or two > between your replies and the copy will help. > >