Re: Question about japanese college students
<vernon.north@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.1983ddb19eba9864989684@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...
> In article <365fcc52.0307190949.3dfc3305@posting.google.com>,
> kaz@ivebeenframed.com says...
> > <vernon.north@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.1981f38430ad64fd989683@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...
> > > In article <365fcc52.0307160342.17f1c5e1@posting.google.com>,
> > > kaz@ivebeenframed.com says...
> > > > <vernon.north@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:MPG.197e66a9ca62399f989682@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> > > > > In article <365fcc52.0307150322.f7fe83e@posting.google.com>,
> > > > > kaz@ivebeenframed.com says...
> > > > > > Vernon North <verno@oyama.ca> wrote in message news:<MPG.197cdbf6c5f2e1d09896a3@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>...
> > > > > > > In article <365fcc52.0307132250.407511de@posting.google.com>,
> > > > > > > kaz@ivebeenframed.com says...
> > > > > > > > "Display Name" <mmiklas@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3z2Oa.9956$Aw.8953@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> > > > > > > > > They're spoiled brats? Japanese kids going to school in the US come from
> > > > > > > > > families in that tax bracket above most of the others, including those
> > > > > > > > > japanese kids who go to college in japan...
> > > > > > > > > Rich kids, not having a lot of character, also usually have to try harder
> > > > > > > > > for a sense of identity (overblown style)
> > > > > > > > > Just a guess.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are the only one I agree with among others in this thread. Yes,
> > > > > > > > you are right. Those Japanese are a sort of special Japanese that I
> > > > > > > > state as "honorary Whites", who have been exceptionally allowed to
> > > > > > > > stay in the US. They are usually well off and very different from the
> > > > > > > > ordinary Japanese. They can't have a lot of character because they
> > > > > > > > always trying to imitate Western things. They can't have their own
> > > > > > > > character, identity and point of view of the Japanese because they
> > > > > > > > look down on the Japanese culture and the Asian culture then they
> > > > > > > > adore every Western things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How much do you hate them, Kaz? Tell us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's unfair to not mention how much those honorary Whites despise us,
> > > > > > isn't it?
> > > > > > They trashed out their identity of Asian, and then extremely hate us.
> > > > > > How do you think about that? You should first see how those honorary
> > > > > > Whites like shuji matsuda, or Daitaro kind of honorary Whites who have
> > > > > > been allowed to live in such a country like Canada hate us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Translation: Honorary whites are non-racist Asians who are able to adapt
> > > > > to life in a European country. Kaz is very jealous of them. They are
> > > > > popular with Canadian women because they have good manners, unlike Kaz.
> > > >
> > > > You sick ultra White supremacist Canadian should stop insulting us.
> > >
> > > I'm not insulting "us". I'm insulting "you". You are the one who can't
> > > get along with people from Canada, US, New Zealand, Korea, Tokyo, Osaka,
> >
> > Why do I have to get along with those people who would be expected as
> > hostile to us?
>
> Us? US? No. YOU. They're hostile to YOU. You behave like a racist
> jerk and people don't like you. You fantasize that it's because they
> don't like Japanese. Wrong. They don't like YOU.
Now you've lost the game. You are not objective. All you're doing is
just shrieking some inconsistent things.
So, Holy Cow! I'll sing for you.
I don't care if I never get back,
Let me root, root, root for the home team,
If they don't win it's a shame.
For it's one, two, three strikes, you're out,
At the old ball game."
> > Except Osaka, Tokyo, and maybe US, those people and
> > country of Canada, New Zealand and Korea are well-known to us as
> > hostile people, countries. And I guess nobody except such "honorary
> > White" kind of people like Daigoro would be interested in getting
> > along with those people. It's not "I can't get along". It's "I don't
> > want to get along". I'm just avoiding those people. Do you see the
> > difference?
>
> Yes. You're a racist and he's not. It's quite clear.
For it's one, two, three strikes, you're out,
At the old ball game."
> > > Europe. When someone sees racism behind every action and every glance,
> > > he's either paranoid or he behaves like a jerk and mistakes people's
> > > rejection of his bad behaviour as racism.
> >
> > I'm not discriminating against them. If there is an opportunity that I
> > have to get along with them, for instance in a business scene, I treat
> > them alright.
> > Again, I'm not interested in Canada, New Zealand, and Korea. For
> > Korea, I had some interest before, but not anymore after those
> > offensive messages in scj.
> >
> > Again, I tell you what, I'm not hating Canadians and those in the land
> > down under. I'm just NOT INTERESTED IN those people and country
> > because those countries and their people are not so attractive to me,
> > and that's all.
> > Do you understand this difference of human emotion? The meaning of
> > "Hate" is different from the meaning of "not interested in".
>
> Um, let's see. You call them white supremacists, racists, pigs, and
> yakuza. But you don't dislike them. Nooooooooo. You're just not
> interested in them.
For it's ONE,
> bwahahahahaha! What a liar! You're a racist. Period.
TWO,
> > > As a defense, you've labelled people who CAN get along as "honorary
> > > whites". Well, I've got news for you. They're just good citizens of
> > > the world, sensitive to cultural differences, and able to adapt. Unlike
> > > you.
> >
> > You are commenting from the ultra White supremacist's point of view.
> > You seem like you are subconsciously thinking as the Japanese are
> > inferior and the Whites are superior so the Japanese must be
> > interested in Whites and White's culture or something.
> No. I just think you're acting like a jerk. Nothing to do with racial
> superiority, or even race, for that matter. As a person, you just plain
> suck. But there are lots of very nice and interesting Japanese people.
> Just not YOU.
THREE STRIKES, you're OUT!!
> > Here is a funny story, I had a Canadian business mate in Japan. He was
> > from Nova Scotia. He shamelessly ordered me that "you have to shoot
> > pool to get along with Canadians". Actually I was the buyer and he was
> > the sellers, but he was ordering me to shoot pool. I don't like that
> > kind of game, but he forced me to speak English and shoot pool. Isn't
> > this ridiculous? If I was a seller selling something to them, it would
> > be ok, but it was diametrically opposite situation. If Canadians were
> > communists, I would have agreed it, but AFAIK, they are not. He was
> > thinking Canadians are superior to the Japanese so the Japanese must
> > behave like the superior Canadians or something, I guess.
>
> Mind-reading again, huh? You've got to stop that. Or at least don't
> try it unless you're wearing a tin foil hat with good antennae.
At the old ball game."
> > I think you
> > are the same as him. You think that the Japanese must follow Whites
> > because Whites are superior or something, don't you?
>
> You need to adjust the antenna on your tin foil hat. You're picking up
> the wrong channel. I don't think anything like that.
game's over.
> > What the Canadian
> > guy from Nova Scotia should have asked me is to have a drink in an
> > Izakaya, not in a pool bar. He should have done so if Canadians are
> > not generally self-centered racists.
>
> Error, Kaz. You should not assume that the attitudes of one white
> person from a particular country are the same as the attitudes of other
> white people from that country. That is stereotyping. It's RACISM.
> You're a racist.
> >
> > > > You dumb barbaric Canadian's manner is just going to a dirty and
> > > > stinking strip club in downtown which the ugly bitch cows are dancing,
> > > > and then arm-wrestle with another tattooed yakuza there, then you
> > > > start to fight with the yakuza, by hitting his heads by a beer battle.
> > > > Nobody want to adapt to such savage style of European countries.
> > > > Japanese have better, nice, clean and neat living standards and
> > > > culture. Those honorary Whites are quasi-barbarians and they are so
> > > > vulgar, so they can stand such vulgar and dirty lifestyle in a
> > > > European country, I think.
> > >
> > > Gee, I've missed out on that. I must lead a sheltered life. ;-)
> > >
> > > But how about you? How did you come to know about that? Is that how
> > > you spent your time in Canada?
> >
> > Didn't I tell you that I've been to Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal a
> > few times?
> > Also I think I told you I have encountered about 60 Canadians so far
> > or something.
>
> And you're completely objective, right? You know exactly what they're
> thinking without them saying it, right? Wrong. What this proves to me
> is that you behave like such a jerk that all 60 Canadians who met you
> can't stand to be around you. And when you turn people off, you blame
> it on them, saying they're racists.
You've lost the game.
> I think it's time you took responsibility for your own behaviour, Kaz.
> You turn people off. Not all Japansese, not even most Japanese. Not
> even a large minority of Japanese. Just YOU with your racist attitudes.
> >
> > > > > Kaz, if you like, I will teach you to be well-mannered.
> > > >
> > > > No, I don't need to know such savage's manner.
> > >
> > > I can see that, as you already act like a savage.
> >
> > Well, since you are the White supremacist, I guess every
> > un-westernized Japanese like me is supposed to be a savage to you, so
> > I don't blame that.
>
> No, most Japanese I've met are nice, decent people. It's just YOU who
> isn't.
> >
> > > > > That way you,
> > > > > too, can be popular with Canadian girls. But first, you must drop macho
> > > > > attitudes, please.
> > > >
> > > > No, I don't want to be popular with such ugly bitches.
> > >
> > > I think you doth protesteth too loud. C'mon, Kaz. Admit it. You like
> > > them.
> >
> > Why I'm (allegedly) saying loud is, there was a few American guys I
> > used to know, and they agreed with the idea that Canadian women are so
> > by their experiences with Canadian women.
>
> You're really into stereotypes, aren't you? Stereotypes are like
> blinders. When you look at someone who isn't "like you", all you see is
> a stereotype. That's racism, Kaz. Do a little reading about it. You
> may learn something. Who knows--you may be salvageable.
>
> Verno
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