"John Yamamoto-Wilson" <j-yamamo@sophia.ac.jp> wrote in message
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> Kaz:
>
> > Why does having Japanese wife explain that you are not a racist? Isn't
> > it a strange logic? As far as I know, a lot of racists have Japanese
> > wife though.
>
> Sad to say, I suppose you are right. But they can't love their wives, can
> they (except
> perhaps in the same way some people love their pets)? I am not married to
an
> acronym ( a "BYJW"), but to a fully-fledged human being and (jeez, this is
> embarassing - if I'd known what I was letting myself in for getting into
> this thread maybe I wouldn't have started!) yes, I do love her.

It wouldn't be sad. As I told before, Kinai is traditionally
female-dominated society ever since the ancient times. Although Japan
is rebuilt by the westernization of Maiji era, the custom of
male-dominated society to be strong as those European powers, such
un-westernized regions like Osaka, Nara or Amagasaki in Kinai still
have that custom. Women are always treated better than men since they
are the family successors. If your wife were Osakan, I guess she is
probably thinking you as a sort of her pet, a sort of servant, or
money making machine...... some like that.

But sorry, Takarazuka you're living is kinda Kobe type city that has
silly women-despising operetta things which mimic the Western things
as well as Kobe. It's an unusual Kinai custom but the operetta was
originally created by the founder Kobayashi who is from Yamanashi
pref. of Kanto in the late Meiji era.
Nevertheless, Nakayama Dera is a fine "Ama" temple that has been
standing and spreading Buddhism from Idia over 1400 years, though.

> > Your cultural back ground....primitive ethnocentric racists in the
> > 18th century who treat anyone inhabiting outside of your little island
> > as subhuman.
>
> Permit me to know a little more about my cultural background than you do.
My
> great great great grandfather was a coal miner (back in the late 18th or
> early 19th century). At six o'clock in the morning he had to go under the
> ground and enter narrow passages to chip out coal in choking, inhuman
> conditions. He would make lunch of a bit of bread and cheese and an apple.
> At six in the evening he would be free to go home, have a bath and some
> supper and go to bed. He did this six days a week except at Christmas,
> Easter and one or two other special occasions. Oh, I forgot to mention, he
> was nine years old when he started.
>
> That was on my father's side. His family was forced out of Scotland during
> the enclosures of the 18th century and found work in the Newcastle area. I
> owe my great great great grandfather a special debt of gratitude because
if
> I had had to do what he did I would surely have died long before reaching
> childbeaqring age, and then I wouldn't be here now (if you see what I
mean).


> My mother's family was Irish. Catholic Irish. If you know your history you
> will know that during the 18th century the Catholic Irish were denied the
> right to an education, to own property, even to eat properly.

What do you mean "your history"? Am I Celt?  Although I am "Ama" that
means "sea people" inhabiting in Amagasaki, I don't think I am such
Murphy people though. But maybe it's close since the origin of Ama
folks is supposed to be southern ocean including India which is
somewhat related to Celt. Irish have myths that are similar to
Japanese ones, and they also worships such primitive indigenous
religion and each village or community has its own shrine like we do

> And that, too, is a lot more than I planned on divulging about myself when
I
> let myself get drawn into this thread!
>
> As Bob Marley (one of those "colored" whom, according to you, I regard as
> subhuman) said, "If you know your history, you will know where you're
coming
> from" (I will never forget going to Hammersmith Odeon to see him and the
> Wailers perform), and if you can explain why I would feel congenitally
> superior because of my ancestry, you explain it to me.
>
> > Maybe the last land in the globe that treat coloreds as
> > animals or subhumans.
>
> I only wish you were right. However, if you care to check the records for
> casualties among the prisoners of war treated as slaves by the Japanese
> during World War II you will find a disproportionate number of what you
call
> "coloreds". Try here for starters:
> http://www.gunplot.net/kwairailway/siamburmarailway.html. Even sadder is
the
> fact that the entire population of present-day Burma (a land that Japan,
in
> collusion with the criminals who run that country, calls "Myanmar") is
*even
> now* being treated as "animals or subhumans" by the military government
> which controls the country.

Kinai is more like the Ama folk's society except those
western-imitating silly kobejaps and despotic kyotojaps. I really
don't understand why you accuse me of such imperial tokyojap's war
charges while you claim that you are not racist because of your family
line....
Accusing the Kinai folks of the imperial tokyojap's war charges is as
silly and meaningless as accusing you who has a coal-mining
grandfather and Irish family line of colonizing Buruma or Myanmar or
whatever...

Anyway, It's nice to be aware that you are not one of those
colonialist racists by glimpsing your cultural background. I peel off
what I labelled you as a racist. Sorry for giving you such emotional
upset of being labelled as a racist.

> > According to your logic defining that racists are subhuman, I think
> > whites are generally more subhuman than any other race, and the most
> > race that keeps the subhuman behavior stubbornly. So what is so
> > awesome about the fact that whites having subhuman behavior? Did it
> > come from the racist's self-conscious superiority complex existing in
> > the deep realm of your subconscious?
>
> Yawn. Try again, Kaz. Psychoanalysis doesn't appear to be your strong
point.
> You accuse me of taking a white supremacist viewpoint, then when I point
out
> that such a viewpoint is equally subhuman you attack me. My own racial
group
> has nothing to do with this. Whether it's you and Supertech, an Ulster
> loyalist and a Catholic, a Futu and a Tutsi or a Serb and a Croat it's all
> the same to me; or didn't you understand me the first time around?
>
> > Once Supertech showed his extreme racial contempt against us, it takes
> > a while to comeback to normal mode.
>
> I suppose that's the closest we'll come to agreement. You accept that your
> language wasn't "normal mode" (though from what I've seen of your posts
it's
> not all that aatypical). To me your language was identical to his - the
> subhuman barking of a man turned feral.
>
> > Supertech is not the only one who
> > has such a strong hatred against us. Most Koreans are having such
> > extreme, aggressive contempt and hostile feelings against us more than
> > those anti-jap kinda people like Dutch, New Zealanders or Chinese. And
> > then Koreans point nuclear missile to us and threaten us. (Except
> > those Silla Koreans, basically and racially N.Koreans and S.Koreans
>
> OK, so you feel threatened and angry at being the object of such hatred.
But
> when you return the same kind of hatred the other party also feels
> threatened and angry, and so it goes on until it comes to blows. Insults
are
> a bad form of communication. Returning the insults is equally bad
> communication.
>
> > Those extreme words are just very good to express one's emotional
> > attitudes. I believe that humans need to be more honest and natural.
>
> Oh, OK. I agree that humans should be honest and natural.
>
> It seems we don't really have a problem here. You have a right, if you
> choose, to use the nastiest insults you can think of, and I have the
right,
> if I choose, to comment that such insults are subhuman drivel. If it's any
> comfort, I have on occasion stooped to insult, and I have, on reflection,
> realised - a\nd admitted - that my words were unworthy.
>
> > <the rest snipped>
>
> Thank goodness! I have a life to live, a job to do and a family to love; I
> don't have time to continue this conversation indefinitely!
>
> --
> John
> http://rarebooksinjapan.com
>