Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Kevin Gowen Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Scanlation Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:24:37 -0400 Lines: 42 Message-ID: <2qs19mF134hkuU1@uni-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de lQVmhkfVVZPAxT9gtKCP7g7op3B2Lo2Zr/WYpc9Jxkf/xAZEtq User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:18442 Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: > Kevin Gowen wrote: > > > Eric Takabayashi wrote: > > > > > >>Kevin Gowen wrote: > > No, because treating file swapping as receiving stolen goods is a loser, > > since copyright infringement is not theft. Also, if I buy a CD/movie and > > then encode it and put it in my share directory, the people who download > > it are making a copy of a product that was legally purchased. For > > receiving stolen goods, first you need goods that have been stolen. > > > > The entertainment companies are being harsh to make examples of people. > > Which was the point I tripped over my own feet trying to make the last > time this topic came up. We don't treat most copyright infringement as a > criminal offense, which puts the entertainment industry in a really > nasty position. With shoplifting, the police at least pretend to care, > and will run the kid through the police station and try frighten him out > of repeating it. With major theft of physical goods, they will undertake > criminal prosecution, which makes winning the later civil case for > damages much easier. With file swapping, you get kids "infringing" a > half-million dollars in music, and nothing happening to them unless the > entertainment industry sues. With physical goods, little Johnny would be > on the rock-pile, and mom and dad would be locked up as accessories. We > have placed the burden of law-enforcement on private companies, who have > to finance the investigation and prosecution on their own behalf, and > then wonder why they act so ruthlessly. We haven't given them much of a > choice. The police aren't able to act, the criminal courts aren't able > to act, the legislatures won't pass corrective legislation to equate > copyright infringment with theft. Their only option is to press their > civil cases loud and hard, with as much publicity as possible and > seeking maximum damages. Where do you get the idea that Mom and Dad are accessories when Johnny steals chattel? - Kevin