Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!taurus!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!proxad.net!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: "Curt Fischer" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan,sci.lang.japan Subject: Re: gifts for Japanese Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:01:19 -0400 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <2qglqiFq47i3U1@uni-berlin.de> References: <1v00d.14214$FV3.14160@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> <%610d.14217$FV3.7873@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> <2qcjbiFst5tkU1@uni-berlin.de> <2qcmltFtp9kgU3@uni-berlin.de> <2qemgeFtp9kgU6@uni-berlin.de> <2qesr8Ftp9kgU13@uni-berlin.de> <0Ds0d.940$XW.25@twister.socal.rr.com> <10k4luogju5ngca@news.supernews.com> <2qg3b4Fviqd5U1@uni-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 12tjCPzviUye1qr1dMACgwNy4YYYe+SqPxte9aUCy2O7zxZzFN X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:18156 necoandjeff wrote: > "Curt Fischer" wrote in message > news:2qg3b4Fviqd5U1@uni-berlin.de... >> necoandjeff wrote: >>> "Marc Adler" wrote in message >>> news:hbt0d.512$YU2.276@twister.socal.rr.com... >>>> Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are you joshing? When people talk about trouble in the Middle >>>>> East, you think that Israel *isn't* a part of what they are >>>>> talking about? >>>> >>>> Most of the time, no, actually. They think the trouble is all on >>>> the Palestine side of the wall (which is going to need a name >>>> pretty soon). >>> >>> In my mind, Israel, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan, in that order, >>> are borderline candidates for inclusion in the Middle East. >> >> If those are borderline candidates what do you count as undisputed >> gold-standard countries in the Middle East? > > Arab countries that are surrounded by the above. When you go to Chinatown in San Francisco, do you claim to have made a voyage to the Far East? -- Curt Fischer