Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!feeder.news-service.com!proxad.net!m.t-online.fr!v.t-online.fr!t-online.fr!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: declan_murphy@hotmail.com Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan,soc.culture.japan Subject: Re: Japan. Date: 7 Aug 2006 07:34:47 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 38 Message-ID: <1154961287.074835.111200@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44d404ce$0$25589$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 220.210.112.109 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1154961292 20137 127.0.0.1 (7 Aug 2006 14:34:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:34:52 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <44d404ce$0$25589$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Alexa Toolbar),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=220.210.112.109; posting-account=XTFokQ0AAAB4DUZc9t8fM3qc5a_bh2nQ Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:164078 B Anderson wrote: > There are many countries in the world. > > And, expatriates from western countries live in many different > countries, for various reasons. > > However, Japan seems to be the only country that people dream of living > in for the sake of living there. > > Look at the internet forums regarding living and working in Japan... > there are thousands of posts from people seeking any way possible to > make a living of any sort in Japan. The aim to live in Japan IS the goal > in itself. We discussed this briefly in February. I think it might have been Mike Cash who pointed out how in the internet forums you mention, he would encounter foreigners (despite not having actually visited Japan) seeking just about any way to live & work here, and claiming that they would do anything to make it possible (with the sole exception of getting a degree to make them eligible for a visa). People like the drongo who answered your post ferinstance. > Of course, some people have a strong interest in a particular country. A > "Francophile" might dream of living in France. But the intensity and > widespreadness does not approach that of Japan. > > Why is this. Obviously there are many unique and interesting things > about Japan... but same for any country. I have no idea. One of my gigs is running a large language school for foreigners learning Japanese, so indirectly some of these "Japan fetish-ists" fill my rice bowl, but that doesn't mean I understand them and their motivations. When I first meet students I'm often asked "what brought you to Japan" and "how long have you been here", but the answers don't seem to compute with the preconceptions. John W seems to have a theory close to the truth.