Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!mmcatv.co.jp!agnes-news.agnes.aoyama.ac.jp!news.assist.media.nagoya-u.ac.jp!news.moat.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: envyisevil@yahoo.com Newsgroups: fj.soc.culture.chinese Subject: Together We Can Save The World from Envy Date: 15 Dec 2005 02:47:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 320 Message-ID: <1134643628.763807.16320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.155.151.82 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1134643634 19624 127.0.0.1 (15 Dec 2005 10:47:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:47:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=202.155.151.82; posting-account=Rhq1cg0AAAB4PgrQ7sai8cWy3vGVYdiK Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.soc.culture.chinese:399 Together we can save the world from Envy. Our world is abundance. Since capitalism become the norm as time goes by, and starting from the publication of "Wealth of Nation" it's a proven fact that our standard of living has grown exponentially. However, why capitalism does not happen sooner? Why there are still people and society that stubbornly oppose capitalism? Ladies and gentlemen. Our world is unfortunately ruled by envy people. Envy people are people that do not want to see others being successful. The very thing that they do not want is success and progress. Yes, capitalism brings prosperity. However, capitalism also fairly rewards those productive individuals generously. This roused hatred from those who are too lazy, dumb, or dishonest to productively earn wealth. Is envy real? Do I make that up? If it's real, why we rarely ever hear people say that they hate free market because they do not like to see their countries proper? Why we keep seeing other more "legitimate" concern, such as lifting up poverty, addressing market failure, the need for more regulation, stabilizing economy, job creation, mass education, or family value? Here's a hint, all of which are handled best by the market itself, by the way. First, I will show you that envy is real. Then I'll tell you how dangerous envy is because it rarely, if ever, spoken straightforwardly. Envy motivated hatred is almost always justified by some vicious lies and prejudices. After that I'll explain why it is very important to be hostile to envy people, far more than being hostile to all other root of evil. In fact, envy, is the root of all evil and suffering we see nowadays. Envy is real. The causes of envy are not usually far from the case of disgruntled competitors. In fact, envy is effectively a form of unhappiness competitors that fail to provide better offers often face. Why people are envy? It has a lot to do with how we evolve. You see, most species reproduce sexually. In most case, a species is divided into 2 sexes. The male, with a lot of small gametes try to acquire as many females as possible. The females, want the best genes and other perks. For peacock, the genes, signaled by elaborate tails is the only currency. Different species have different techniques of females' acquisition. For humans, females are usually attracted by wealth. Creating a lot of wealth signals genetic quality. That's because not every male can be rich. Females that pick richer smarter males will not only more likely to get better genes, but will have more inheritance for her sons. Those sons will then become richer and attract more females. So under normal circumstances with minimum market distortion and governments' interference, sexier individuals tend to survive better in the gene pool. Smarter richer males mate with more females and produce more kids. Prettier females can aim for richer males getting better genes and more money. It's just like under normal free market circumstances, the best products and services will fill the market. Then things will get better and better. The same way, under normal unregulated sexual selection process, as well as in any other process actually, the best genes will fulfill the earth. These make many inferior envy people very unhappy. So they instinctively evolve preferences to get in the way of anyone gaining better success in anything. Such preference is called envy. Envy is usually promoted by those who are inferior. Those who truly are superior do not need to cheat by resorting to supremacies ideologies, or gas chambers, etc. Let the market decide which one makes the most money, let sexual selection decides which one more attractive. Why envy is very dangerous? Because it's rarely an honest preference. Envy is often justified with some forms of pretexts. What is honest justification? Say you accidentally step in someone else's' shoes. Say he got mad. The justification is you step on his foot. The problem is the same. So what should you do to appease him? Stop stepping on his shoes. Perhaps offer a little compensation for the small discomfort. If you see a sign, "Don't break my car or I'll get mad" what's the issue? He doesn't want you to break his car. What should you do so he doesn't get mad? Don't break his car. If some welfare recipients say, "Give me money I am starving, less I wage riots." What's the issue? He's starving he wants food. What should you do so he doesn't riot? You have two choices. You can kill them, or you can just feed them. Me, I prefer to just feed them because it's more humane and not very expensive anyway. There still have to be harsh consequences for not being productive to be fair, such as preventing unproductive people from making kids till they can actually afford those kids so our problems don't grow. The point is when the pretext is the same with the real problem, it may be more auspicious and reasonable to appease and you can appease easily and cheaply. Envy motivated hostility is different. What envy people want from you is your failure. However, people want to maintain appeasable attitude. If the very think they want from you is your failure, obviously you wouldn't bother trying to appease them. Moreover, envy is heavily related to disgruntled competitors. Competition for making better products and services benefit so many people. Competitions among cake shops, for example, give intensives for shops to make the most delicious cakes with the least price and hence will benefit consumers. So, simply wanting a superior competitor to fail will be very politically incorrect. Envy people will come up with other pretext to justify their hostility toward you. Say you're successful. Say somebody hates you because you're successful. They're going to say you're wrong because you hurt someone else's right. Usually, they made up some rules after the acts, or anything to show that you're wrong. You will then say, "Well, it's not a written rule, so I don't know. But tell you what; I can be successful some other way. So no worry lah..." You would think that buy addressing the pretext you've solved the problem. But that's not the real problem. The real problem is they do not want you to be successful. So, they're going to get even MADDER. Then you don't understand why they get mad? Then they will acts like it's obvious that you're wrong that you're so stupid you don't know. Then they'll bring their friends to shape public opinion damaging your reputation. Then you'll really run into problem. Remember, people often hate successful people way more than they hate thieves or burglars due to envy. I'll give you an example. Say you come up with a more efficient technique to increase labors' productivity. Say you create steam engines, the start of western civilization as we know it. Obviously this will benefits labors. Increased labor's productivity will increase demand for labors that'll increase labor's market price. This, however, will hurt the interest of less productive business owners that already have their capitals stuck in less productive industry, possibly due to some unfair governments' protection where productivity doesn't matter. I can go on and on telling how this is the real cause behind American civil war but that's beyond this article. So, what would the other business do? They'll want you to fail. Will they honestly say that they want you to fail because you hurt their business by increasing labor's salary? No. They will say that increasing labor's productivity, with machinery, will require less labor for the same task. This in turn will reduce demands for labors. Hence, they will demand governments' official to protect less productive industry. Most people do not understand how macro economy work and would agree. Finally, they'll just get governments to high handedly prohibit you from using better techniques. What would you do? If you don't know better, you will probably say, "Don't worry about the reduced demand for labors lah. If entrepreneurs like me increase labors' productivity, then I'll make even more money for every one additional labor that I hire. Hence, I will hire as many labors as possible. This will create demand for labors increasing their market value. So, the labors are benefited too rather than hurt." Will this appease your opponents? Will they say, "Oh the labors are benefited, so okay lah"? No. Your opponents' real concern is that you're tough competitors. If you address the pretext, they'll get even madder. They'll think, "Oh no, this guy will not only do it, they'll do it big. Also he can get many people to agree with him if we let them talk." So there it goes crazier and crazier pretext outcry. You name it. Your ancestors kill their savior. Your words offend their religion. A mark in your body means you're a witch. Your ideas are like (pick one: Nazi, Hitler, idiots, parasites, etc.) If you successfully mate with many females and make a lot of money, will less productive males say, "I hate this person because he is superior and more attractive than I am"? No. They're going to say that you're inferior and therefore must be sent to gas chamber, concentration camps, etc. Since when being inferior is wrong anyway? We all have our plusses and minus. Often inferior accusations are raised against those whose real issues are quite the opposites. What else would less desirable males competitors would say? They will say a lot. They will say that polygamy, prostitution, and free sex have to be illegal. Will they say that polygamy should be illegal to ration females to less desirable males? No! They will say that polygamy should be made illegal to "protect women." We can only wonder how any adult humans can be protected from consensual choices. A variation is that somehow they come up to portray consensual choices as inconsensual. What about if women circumvent that rules by emulating marriage with prostitution? Well, they make prostitution illegal too. What about if women just enjoy free sex? They make it illegal too, or when not, they'll do their best to discourage it by saying that it's against something way too difficult to disprove like "religion," "morality," "spirituality" and yada yada yada. Children are prevented from watching enlightening movies like porn and forced to watch bull shit romance movies. Such children could end up trapped in very unhappy marriage when they grew older. After that they set up child support requirements to be proportional to a man's wealth. That way, welfare parasites can make, and even encouraged to make, thousands of kids more than what he can afford while a billionaire cannot make as many kids as he can afford. Both will be better of if the welfare parasites get bigger TV and the billionaires make more kids. An innocent successful human that consensually interact will think that this is a misunderstanding. "Oh so they want to protect women. It seems that their concern is that the women may be coerced into prostitution. Well, fine, I'll just perform prostitution in public then so every body knows that no guns are being pointed to the women's' head anytime." Will they be appeased? No, they'll get even madder. They'll say such actions offend people, damage morality, etc. etc. etc. So what would you do? You would think, "Ah may be this people do not understand that women want the best genes. Let's start a scientific inquiry about what women's' want. Something likes Kinsey's report, with standard anonymous surveys, etc." Will they said, "Ah, now I got scientific evidences. It turns out prostitution and free sex can indeed be consensual. Okay, I'll make it legal then." Of course not. That's not the real issue. The real issue is that poor dumb males are not getting chicks and ugly women's' son will be out competed by the sons of the pretty. So they'll get even madder. They will attack the scientific inquiry. Failure to recognize which accusation is envy motivated and which accusation is real can be very dangerous. You can read http://geocities.com/afriendnottohave for another detailed sample of how dangerous it is to be compassionate to an obnoxious envy people. The story talks about a guy successfully getting a lot of network contacts through friendly means. Then a very envy "old hag" accuses the person of pretending to be her friend. The accused friendly presumed this must be a misunderstanding and compassionately tries to save her from embarrassment by explaining her mistakes so he doesn't have to do so publicly. In which cases, the accusations simply keep changing increasing the number of envy people that join force. Wrong moves. It's dangerous to ever think an envy people is a friend no matter how friendly she pretend to be. That's not the big problem actually. We all tend to be friendly to many people. It's just what being polite means. Of course there is a risk that a bigot envy person is one of them. The real mistake is to compassionately try to appease. That's just wrong wrong wrong. It's important to simply address hostile envy motivated accusation with even more hostile explanation explaining their true nature. How do envy affects our society? Bad. When smarter people see that honest ways of making money are all blocked, what will they do? They'll turn into corruptors. Humans maximize their profit. Each of us will get our share based on how capable we are. There is no such thing as equality of result as we do not have equal ability and equal choice. Look at all countries around us and all countries all the time. From the communist North Korea, the Mongol empire, the capitalistic US. In all those countries, the smarter end up the richest and happiest no matter what. Capitalism is, in fact, the most moderate among all those. Perhaps, principles of free market is much simpler to understand than the art of war or political intricacies. In countries that properly align humans' interest with productivity, every body, from the richest 10% to the most bottoms 10% are better of than the other countries with comparable percentiles. Envy is the reason why there are many countries that are not as wealthy as wealthy nations. Even western nations will get even more advance and wealthy if they purged envy out of the gene pool. If only this envy motivated lies are told honestly, we can come up with some better mutually acceptable solutions. For example, if some males get richer and mate with more women, as long as he makes other males get richer too, the other males can simply "import" or attract women from other societies. We can pressure all other countries to embrace freedom way more by importing all their women rather than by sending men there. The males in that country will know that they have to be rich and freedom is the way. That's why many minorities groups are richer than their hosts. That's because all those minority groups practice more libertarianism than the rest. Hence, every body is profited right? While we all want to survive in the gene pool, not all people are equally motivated to stay. Women are more valuable for the rich because the rich are willing to pay more. The gay don't seem to care at all about making kids. Some people are pro "choice." We all know that they want choices to kick themselves out of the gene pool. Our liberal comrades want drug. Why don't give them their dose for a life time in exchange of vasectomy, which they won't mind having? So, what about if we tax kids and reward people for fewer kids? Then the poor will have more choices to increase their standard of living while the rich can be happier more meaningfully by making more kids rather than making more mansions. Poor people will no longer be restricted to public school with garbage teaching. The market, which mean, those poor students will decide, which courses will make the most money and go to school that provide the best education that suit his need. If any poor people is poor because of lack of chance but actually superior, that poor people will get richest the fastest under free market. Once he becomes a billionaire, he can simply buy lots of license to make kids and make thousands of kids. If a poor people are poor because he's just plain inferior, he too will have more choices and can live much more humanely than current stupid poor people life. Just don't make kids till they proof they can be productive. When economy improves, even the poorest will live a much higher standard of living. All these are not even talked about due to envy motivated lies and prejudices. Any mentions of these ideas are quickly attacked as offensive, evil, fascists, etc. Remember that the most evil, false, and damaging beliefs are often those held the most sacrosanct. Those are beliefs protected from criticism and scientific observations. Only beliefs receiving huge unfair protection can still be wrong and yet believed. We can all save the world from envy by unmasking their lies and prejudices. Also, always try to get the real truth. If we don't objectively embrace the truth, someone who knows what's really going on, will use it to manipulate us.