Amani wrote:
> "Drinian" <sailracer6@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>wing wrote:
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>>>"Amani" <amani@charter.net> wrote in message
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>>>>Surprised no one's posted this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15399
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>>Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>nice :)
>>>only as far as i know there were no tanks like the ones on the
> 
> picture...
> 
>>>:)=
>>>
>>>---
>>>...and the night came...
>>>
>>>
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>>Wow! Thanks, Taryn. I can't deal with AICN on a daily basis with their
>>layout, so I usually miss stuff like this. Yeah, it does seem that
>>they've already started to make some changes in design, but there are
>>going to have to be some differences in live-action Eva, whether it is
>>in the holding-tanks or character design.
> 
> 
> Don't praise me too much--I got the link from a friend on a message board. I
> can't stand AICN's layout, either. ;)
> 
> 
>>I have to wonder what WETA is using for source material -- after all, if
>>they watch the TV series too much, the entire thing might end up looking
>>somewhat too cartoonish a la X-Men.
> 
> 
> They cut the spandex. Good enough for me.
> 
> 
>>2) Age / appearance of the pilots: if this is to be an American-release
>>movie, I don't think 14 is going to cut it. 16, maybe. This will also
>>help with acting. At the same time, this movie can't end up looking like
>>  Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider, as (hopefully) the serious implications
>>of this series will not be left behind or obscured by juvenile
>>Maxim-magazine-ism (though by reading other posts here... aargh...).
> 
> 
> Whether they're 14 or 16, most likely they're going to have actors 16 or
> older. Most likely young-looking 18 or older. Rarely do teenagers get played
> by actors the same age.
> 
> 
>>4) Cartoonish (exaggerated) humor and fanservice. Doesn't work the same
>>in live action. Also see #2. Asuka's role and personality will be much
>>harder to establish without these.
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> 
> 
>>Hmm. This post is already getting too long. I leave with the proposal of
>>a question: which ending / point of view on the ending do you think the
>>movie should follow?
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> 
> Movie, without a doubt. I prefer the TV ending, but no producer would ever
> even /think/ about doing that at the end of an Eva movie.
> 
> 
>>Oh, right, I should introduce myself, as this is my 2nd post ever on
>>Usenet (and the first was in comp.linux). I'm 18, male, Christian,
>>generally conservative, college student, got introduced to Evangelion
>>and anime in general about 3 months ago by a friend of mine... and now
>>am hooked (own both Eva movies on DVD, working on SE: Lain among other
>>things, somewhat considering going to Otakon in August).
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> 
> 
> --Taryn
> 
> 

Hmm. Now that I think about it a little more, X-men wasn't that bad, but 
I've never really read comic books. I actually liked the first one more, 
and thought it was more coherent.

 > *waves* Welcome! 16, female, Christian, generally conservative, high 
school
 > student, started Evangelion...two years ago? No, wait...three or four 
now.
 > Jeez...

You started Eva in your early teens? That must have screwed you up for 
life...

 > I'll agree on the first part (really don't need that kind of anime 
humor in
 > a live-action movie) but I'll disagree on Asuka. Asuka's personality 
is not
 > a fanservice one. Misato's is. Asuka was /used/ for fanservice, but 
that's
 > not her personality. Asuka is agressive and tempermental and madly
 > over-compensating for her own insecurities. She does have moments of 
trying
 > to impress Kaji, but they don't come close to Misato's, which is far more
 > often.

More to the point, it's going to be much harder to achieve suspension of 
disbelief. Some of the dialogue in the TV series is absolutely 
ridiculous when uttered by actual human beings; I'm thinking 
specifically of "Asuka Strikes!" when she's first introduced, having 
almost fallen out of my chair when she makes her comment about how she's 
grown. Not to mention all of the cast's ruminations on existence (which 
is NOT ridiculous by any means). Also, I had always thought of the age 
of 14 as being more symbolic of the state of these children rather than 
realistic, so I always considered it flexible.

As for the fanservice (wtf is that term supposed to mean exactly 
anyway?), the line between beauty and hentai is slightly different and 
less obvious in anime than real life, at least to me. I wasn't really 
talking about Asuka in particular either. As Jessica Rabbit said, "I'm 
not bad... I'm just drawn that way." Also probably why I like the women 
of Evangelion more than Hollywood star-types -- they are idealizations 
of beauty and Hollywood types aren't any more real than cartoons anyway.

Perhaps I've already said too much. I don't really want to start 
examining the psychology of attraction right now.

I've thought of a few more things:
1) Music -- I can't see this being recycled, no matter how good or 
appropriate it is.
2) Do we even know yet whether this is going to be an American or 
Japanese movie? ADV's involvement suggests an English-speaking presence.
3) Kind of like how Wolverine lost the yellow tights for leather, Rei 
might have to lose the blue hair and red eyes to look halfway human. Not 
to mention Gendo's Mickey Mouse gloves...
4) I have no more faith in GAINAX after seeing these *officially 
licensed* products:
<a 
href="http://www.gainax.co.jp/shop/goods/index-e.html">http://www.gainax.co.jp/shop/goods/index-e.html</a>
but this stuff wouldn't fly as tie-ins with a PG-13 movie in the US 
anyway. I'm sure this is old news.
5) Can anyone translate the Japanese in the concept art of Asuka?
6) What's a _reformed_ atheist?



Your backseat concept artist,
Drinian