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>                           UFO PHOTOS
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>  http://www.theyfly.com/gallery.htm 
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>          EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT 
>           The Astounding Billy Meier Story 
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>  http://www.billymeier.com/photos.htm 
>  http://www.billymeier.com/billy_meier.htm 
>  http://www.billymeier.com/pleiadians.htm
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We all grew up believing that Mt. Everest was the tallest mountain
in the world.
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Billy Meier, back in the 1970s, said this is not the case. He revealed
an extraterrestrial had informed him Mt. Chimborazo in Ecudado
actually is taller.
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The scientific community took this information with a grain of salt.
It scoffed, as it always seems to do when its scientific theories and
evidence are challenged. 
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Well, in the January 2002 issue of National Geographic magazine,
an article appeared which acknowledged that Meier was absolutely
right.
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Scientists determined that because the earth bulges around the middle
due to its spinning  action, the tallest mountain is not Mt. Everest
after all but Mt. Chimborazo.
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You see, measuring mountains from sea level is not an accurate method
of assessing a mountain's true height.
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The article stated that, when measured from the center of the earth.
Mt. Chimborazo is 6,384,450 meters in elevation, relegating Mt.
Everset to second place with a height of 6,382,250 meters.
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Meier claimed this information came from a member of a race of
Pleiandians with whom he has had direct contact for 60 years.
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Could a poor Swiss farmer who never even graduated from high school
come up with such information on his own? Certainly not!
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The Pleiandians had provided much more information to Meier over the
years.
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They include many things, thought impossible, that have come true --
the latest being the discovery of a 10th planet in our solar system,
which Meier said the Pleiandians had told him many years ago.
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For those who erroneously claim that Billy Meier has been debunked
many times over, this is absolutely not the case. He has not been
debunked even once.
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Now we'll let Michael Horn, Meier's official American representative,
carry the ball (His Web page is http:theyfly.com.)
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"Meier claims that his voluntary, face-to-face contacts with the ETs
began when he was five years old...and continue to this day," Horn
wrote.
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"During these contacts, Meier claims, he's had lengthy conversations
with the ETs on a very wide variety of matters, many well outside of
his own educational background or personal experience.
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"While claims of a UFO contact case spanning 60 years are unique in
themselves, Meier sets himself apart from all other persons alleging
contact by providing irreproducible physical evidence: 
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"Over 1,200 clear daytime photos of up to four of the UFOs at one
time. 
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"Eight 8mm film segments of up to three of the UFOs at one time. Sound
recordings of the UFO made outdoors on a cassette machine, in front of
15 witnesses. Metal samples presented to him by the ETs which were
examined by a patent-holding scientist at IBM.
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"All of the above physical evidence underwent independent scientific
testing and analysis, was found to be genuine, and remains
irreproducible to this day," Horn continues. "And all of the evidence
was produced and presented between 1975 and 1980 when the technology
to hoax it was unavailable, including computer, special effects, Photo
Shop, digital effects, etc. 
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"While this alone is simply staggering to anyone understanding the
implications, there have always been those who simply claim that,
somehow, the one-armed Mr. Meier hoaxed every bit of the
evidence...despite absolutely no proof that he did or even could have.
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"And Meier is not the only one to have seen or photographed the UFOs.
There have been more than 70 witnesses and four other people who
photographed the spacecraft. As recently as May 2000, 17 people
observed two of the silvery discs hovering above the property in
Switzerland where Meier, his family and some friends live.
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"One of the witnesses, Freddy Kropf, took numerous clear photos of the
event. With all this in mind, it was decided that an even higher
standard of proof would need to be set, one that would be impossible
for anyone to hoax, no matter how many arms, how much money or how
many accomplices he would have," added Horn..
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"Simply put, the higher standard of proof would be advance knowledge
of things and events that had not yet occurred, been discovered or
proven to be true. In other words, prophetically accurate, highly
specific scientific and world event-related information. 

"And, rather than suggest that Mr. Meier come up with some new
prophecies, and thereby give him the opportunity to either attempt to
second guess such matters, or cleverly use the Internet to search out
little known information that he could creatively string together
under the guise of prescience, we searched his already published
material, the thousands of pages of alleged conversations with the ETs
dating back to 1975, to see what we could cull from it that might
either provide evidence of foreknowledge or cast sufficient doubt on
his claims. 
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"Before presenting the current results of that search, it should be
mentioned that in February of 2001, I contacted the professional
skeptics group, CFI West in Los Angeles (affiliated with the magician
and debunker the "Amazing" Randi) and challenged them to duplicate one
of Meier's photos and one of his film segments," wrote Horn.
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"Since I had been assured by a CFI West investigator that these were
easily duplicated hoaxes I was interested in seeing just how quickly
they could duplicate them.
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It is now more than three years later "and they have been unable to
duplicate even one of them, despite my invitation to use any
technology currently available to them (and which clearly wasn't
available to Meier.) I did suggest, that to be sporting about it, that
the man use only one arm," said Horn.. 
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"Here is a brief sampling of what we found in a very abbreviated form.
Meier's contact number, date and subject are shown followed by the
earliest date of corroboration: 7th Contact, February 25, 1975, 34th
and 35th Contacts, September 14th and 16th, 1975: Connection of A-bomb
testing, explosions to ozone damage, contribution of bromine gases to
ozone damage, penetration of UV through holes would lead to
disruptions in food chain, genetic mutations, other long term negative
effects for human kind and the planet. 
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"Corroborated: November 29, 1988, published report from Lawrence
Livermore National Laboratories announced this new discovery: ATOM
BOMB TESTING TIED TO OZONE DEPLETION 
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"Corroborated: Los Angeles Times on February 24, 1992 revealed: OZONE
HOLE DAMAGES FOOD CHAIN 
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"Corroborated: National Public Radio in 1991 confirmed connection
between bromine gases and damage to the ozone layer. 
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"45th Contact, February 25, 1976 Semjase (the extraterrestrial woman
contact) warned him that our extraction of petroleum and natural gas
from the Earth, damming of waters, construction of huge cities were
major contributing factors to the increase of earthquakes and volcanic
activity. 
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"Corroborated: The Good Life-Independent Journal newspapers, June 27,
1990: EARTHQUAKES, OIL INTER-ACT 
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"31st Contact, July 17, 1975: Specific information about Venus,
unknown at the time, included: composition of atmospheric gases,
surface temperatures, depth of clouds, wind speeds, atmospheric
pressure, coloration, variation in terrain, etc. 
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"Corroborated: By both US (in August 1976) and USSR (in October 1975)
probes. 
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"Corroborated: February 1981, USGS was producing a topographical map
of Venus which, it was discovered, further confirmed the details Meier
had published...five years earlier. 
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"31st Contact, July 17, 1975: Meier was informed that, contrary to his
belief, Mt. Chimborazo (and not Mt. Everest) was highest mountain on
Earth. 

"Corroborated: Confirmed in a report in the June 1996 issue of Earth
magazine, 21 years later. 115th Contact, October 19, 1978: Contained
information on Jupiter's 17 moons, existence of rings around the
planet which were comprised of mostly particles and sulphur ions flung
off by volcanoes on Io, the most volcanically active body in solar
system and which, unlike Jupiter's other moons has an extremely level
surface and is completely devoid of water (exactly unlike the
ice-encrusted Europa), also he learned that Jupiter's red spot is a
rotating, huge funnel-shaped hole in the surface of Jupiter which is
the center of a gigantic storm, thousands of years old which rotates
at great speed in a counter-clockwise direction. 

"Corroborated: March 5, 1979, NASA discovers rings of Jupiter, Meier
was 5 months in advance with his information. (Also, only 15 moons
were known at the time, 16th discovered shortly after. Moons are
different from other numerous asteroids and smaller bodies in orbit
around Jupter.) Corroborated: September 15, 1998, Cornell University
scientists confirm particulate composition of rings from Jupiter$(D??(Bs
moons. Meier was 20 years in advance on this. 

"Additional prophetic information from this contact was put in to the
possession of the lead investigator in the case, Col. Wendelle
Stevens, USAF (Ret.), Maj. Rudolph Pestalozzi, USAF (Ret.), and Mr. O.
Richard Norton, former director of the Flandreau Planetarium in
Tucson, Arizona. 
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 "They witnessed and secured the information until after the following
was corroborated: 

? Jonestown massacre 

? Overthrow of the Shah of Iran 

? Soviet invasion of Afghanistan 

? Chinese invasion of North Viet Nam 

? Death of Tito of Yugoslavia 

? Mount St. Helen's eruption 

? Abdication of the Queen of Holland 

? Death of Indira Ghandi 

? Iran Hostage Crisis 

? Terrorist Attack on Iranian Embassy in London 

"1978: In his book, Existing Life in the Universe, Meier predicted
that a telescope would be launched at end of 1980s which would make
unfathomable discoveries in space. 
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"Corroborated: Hubble telescope was subsequently launched in April
1990, 12 years later. 1978: ETs told Meier that a comet would be
discovered in late 1980s to early 1990s that would ultimately be named
Toutatis, and may threaten Earth in September of 2004. 
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"Corroborated: 1989, French astronomers indeed discovered a comet,
named it Toutatis. Predicted to come closest to Earth around September
29, 2004. 
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"Still speculative: Meier stated that there are two small planetary
bodies outside the orbit of Pluto which he calls Trans-Pluto and Uni
which our scientists will discover in the not too distant future.
235th Contact February 3, 1990: Warned of earthquake in California for
February 28, 1992. 
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"Corroborated: Date of the Upland earthquake. 241st Contact, February
3, 1992: Contained specific Corroborated warnings about: Landslide in
Brazil which occurred in March of 1992. 
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"Nuclear accident in Russia during the 3rd week of March, 1992 which
occurred on March 27, 1992. Earthquake in the L.A. area foreseen as
occurring on April 23rd or 24th, 1992, hit on April 22, 1992
(Landers.) 
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"Eruption of Mt. Etna predicted for April 1992 was reported April 15,
1992. 
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"Eruption of Cerro Negro in Nicaragua in April 1992 occurred April 9 -
12. 
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"Earthquakes foretold for Gremany-Holland-Belgium area for April 1992
occurred April 13, 1992 known as Roermond earthquakes. 249th Contact,
June 13th, 1994: (In response to a question Meier asked regarding Mad
Cow Disease), was told that, "BSE pathogens cannot be destroyed by
simply cooking the meat and other items, or by producing meatmeal", he
said that the temperatures necessary for destroying the
disease-causing prions would need to be, "as high as 700?C (1228?F),
and possibly even up to 1000?C (1768?F), for previously mutated
pathogens that have existed for some time now." Our scientists have
been raising their own estimates as to the temperatures necessary to
destroy the disease-causing prions and are now more closely
approaching the figure the ET contact stated. 
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"251st Contact, February 3, 1995: Contains some of the most startling
information regarding technological developments such as: hybrid
warriors created by mixing humans and pigs(Corroborated: Human-pig DNA
experiments recently begun), people who have bio-chips attached
directly to their nerve endings (Corroborated: People already
beginning to be "chipped"), the creation of half-human half-machine
beings, clones and androids, the jumping of Mad Cow Disease to other
species (Corroborated: Mad Deer, Mad Elk, etc.), discoveries that will
conclusively confirm evidence of previous human life on Mars and many
other things which are still, at this time, speculative. At the same
time, Meier$(D??(Bs information on the discovery and rectification of what
is called the imaging gene$(D??(B (Corroborated: researchers now recognizing
the genetic role in aging), and Plejaran warnings about a deep impact
scenario and the need for a defense system against dangerous incoming
objects, are already being reflected in our scientific media. 
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"While daily revelations in the news continue to confirm many of
Meier's prophetic information, some information from this 251st
Contact (which is already in the book "And Yet They Fly!" published on
September 16, 2001) appears to deal with events very close upon us: 
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<On a broader scale, expect a strike involving the USA and its
president that will stun the entire world.$(D??(B (When I asked FIGU,
earlier this year, if this was related to the WTC attacks I was told
no, it referred to attacks that would be forthcoming from the USA
against Iraq and other countries.) Uprisings, revolutions, wars, and
other diverse forms of unrest will escalate tremendously with Islamic
fundamentalism playing a very sad part in the scenario." This
statement, which followed the preceding one, seems to support the
current timeline. 
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"As provocative as this is information, none is more troubling than
the prophetic information from the 215th Contact, February 28, 1987.
Formerly available only in German, this contact was recently
translated into English and it contains, among many items, advance
warning of destruction of the WTC by terrorists, ominously stating
that it is only the beginning of such troubles for America. While this
contact details events on a worldwide level that appear to transpire
over a number of years, there is specific mention of the destructive
repercussions of American foreign and military policies that will not
only stun the entire world (as is alluded to in the later 251st
Contact) but come back upon the USA in unforeseen ways. 
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"What Does It Mean to Us? 
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"The material in this case plainly states what should be obvious: The
universe, and everything in it, are governed by unalterable laws,
basic among them is the law of cause and effect. Once the pendulum is
sent out on its way, it will eventually return with the predictable
result. The law always fulfills itself, in its own timing and its own
way. 

"Foundational to the purported purpose of Meier's extraterrestrial
friends, and his publication of their (and his own) prophetic and
predictive information is the premise that certain things can be
changed when human consciousness recognizes its errors and makes an
effort in the correct, positive direction to alter those outcomes
which can still be changed. Prophecies refer to those events which are
the likely outcome of causes put in motion which are still alterable,
to some degree. Predictions refer to those events which, for a number
of reasons, will occur with certainty. Some predictions are simply
prophecies that went past the point of no return. 

"It should be noted that special emphasis was placed, in the 215th
Contact, on America and these very times we are in. More recent
comments by Meier have also carried a heavy warning regarding the
current American administration and leadership and the danger of it
leading the world, irrevocably, into the next World War. 
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":Certainly it doesn't take an extraterrestrial to hold this or any
other opinion on current world events. So it is up to each interested
person to do the necessary research to determine the accuracy and
authenticity of the Meier UFO Contacts for themselves.
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" Should the most important event in human history actually have
occurred, perhaps we may then understand that this is less about
UFOs and extraterrestrials than it is about us and our survival." 
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>  http://www.theyfly.com is the web site of Michael
> Horn, Billy Meier's official American representative.
> He will accept a debate from anyone in the world
> on the credibility of the Meier contacts and photos
> and everything else concerning the extraterrestrials.
> You can e-mail him at michael@theyfly.com
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Ed Conrad
> http://www.edconrad.com
   Man as Old as Coal and Proof of Life After Death
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>    PETRIFIED HUMAN REMAINS, MISC. FOSSILS
>    DISCOVERED BETWEEN ANTHRACITE VEINS
>     (Most Documented by State-of-the-Art Testing)
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PETRIFIED HUMAN FINGER AND TOE:
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JPG
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THE FIRST DISCOVERY IN JUNE 1981
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/first.jpg
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PREMOLAR TOOTH FOUND INSIDE JAW-LIKE AREA
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-014S.JPG
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PETRIFIED HUMAN CALVARIUM (PART OF SKULL)
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/krogwskull.jpg
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PETRIFIED HUMAN SKULL EMBEDDED IN BOULDER
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
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PETRIFIED HUMAN FEMUR EMBEDDED IN SHALE
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z6femur.jpg
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PORTION OF A PETRIFIED TIBIA
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/newtibia.jpg
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PETRIFIED GALL BLADDER, CONTAINING A GALL STONE
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.jpg
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PETRIFIED HUMAN MANDIBLE (FRONTAL)
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG
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PORTION OF PETRIFIED DINOSAUR FOOT IN SLATE
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
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PORTION OF GIANT PETRIFIED SCORPION
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG
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PETRIFIED BONES IN GIANT SLAB OF SLATE
> http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-002S.JPG
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GIANT CANINE TOOTH
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
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HAND-CARVED TOOL OR WEAPON (Turned to Coal)
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG
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> WORLD'S LARGEST NEWSPAPERS
> Rank   Title   Country  Circulation (000)
1  Yomiuri Shimbun  Japan           14,067
2  The Asahi Shimbun  Japan      12,121
3  Mainichi Shimbun  Japan            5,587
4  Nihon Keizai Shimbun  Japan    4,635
5  Chunichi Shimbun  Japan           4,512
6  Bild  Germany                                 3,867
7  Sankei Shimbun  Japan               2,757
8  Canako Xiaoxi (Beijing)  China   2,627
9  People's Daily  China                   2,509
10  Tokyo Sports  Japan                  2,425
11  The Sun  United Kingdom        2,419
12  The Chosun Ilbo  South Korea 2,378
13  USA Today  USA                          2,310
14  The Wall Street Journal  USA    2,107
15  Daily Mail  UK                               2,093
16  The Joongang Ilbo  South Korea  2,084
17  The Dong-A Ilbo  South Korea  2,052
18  Nikkan Sports  Japan  1,965
19  Hokkaido Shimbun  Japan  1,922
20  Dainik Jagran  India  1,911
21  Yangtse Evening Post  China  1,715
22  Sports Nippon  Japan  1,711
23  The Nikkan Gendai  Japan  1,686
24  Times of India  India  1,680
25  Guangzhou Daily  China  1,650
26  The Mirror  UK  1,597
27  Yukan Fuji  Japan  1,559
28  Shizuoka Shimbun  Japan  1,479
29  Nanfang City News (Guangzhou)  China  1,410
30  Dainik Bhaskar  India  1,405
31  Sankei Sports  Japan  1,368
32  Hochi Shimbun  Japan  1,354
33  Yangcheng Evening News (Guangzhou)  China  1,320
34  Malayala Manorama  India  1,309
35  Liberty Times  Taiwan  1,300
36  Thai Rath  Thailand  1,200
37  New York Times  USA  1,121
38  Hindustan Times  India  1,108
39  Chutian Metro Daily (Wuhan)  China  1,084
40  Gujarat Samachar  India  1,051
41  Ananda Bazar Patrika  India  1,046
42  Xinmin Evening News (Shanghai)  China  1,045
43  Eenadu  India  1,039
44  Nishi-Nippon Shimbun  Japan  1,025
45  Kronen Zeitung  Austria  1,009
46  WAZ Mediengruppe  Germany 1,001
47  United Daily News  Taiwan 1,000
48  China Times  Taiwan 1,000
49  Daily Sports  Japan 999
50  The Hindu  India  989
51  Hindustan  India  957
52  Beijing Evening News  China  950
53  Mathrubhumi  India  904
54  Los Angeles Times  USA  902
55  Information Times  China  900
56  Daily News  Thailand  900
57  Al-Ahram  Egypt  900
58  Peninsula City News  China  860
59  Kom Chad Luek  Thailand  850
60  Kyoto Shimbun  Japan  825
61  Kobe Shimbun  Japan  821
62  Punjab Kesari  India  817
63  Komsomolskaya Pravda  Russia  817
64  Rajasthan Patrika  India  804
65  Dahe Newspaper  China  796
66  Chugoku Shimbun  Japan  789
67  Ouest France  France  783
68  Daily Sakai  India  783
69  Jang  Pakistan  775
70  AJ  India  759
71  De Telegraaf  The Netherlands  753
72  Qianjiang Evening News  China  750
73  Qilu Evening News  China  750
74  Nanfang Daily  China  750
75  Daily Thanthi  India  750
76  Moskovskiy Komsomolets  Russia  750
77  Sandesh  India  743
78  Daily Express  UK  720
79  New York Daily News  USA  715
80  The Washington Post  USA  708
81  Daily Star  UK  705
82  Today Evening News  China  699
83  New York Post  USA  686
84  Corriere Della Sera  Italy  677
85  Wuhan Evening News  China  660
86  Modern Express  China  651
87  Yanzhao Metro Daily  China  650
88  Metro Express China  650
89  Zeitungsgruppe Koln  Germany  628
90  Kahoku Shimpo  Japan  622
91  La Repubblica  Italy  622
92  Trud  Russia  613
93  Beijing Youth Daily  China  606
94  Chicago Tribune  USA  601
95  New Express  China  600
96  Daily Sunshine  China  600
97  Matichon  Thailand  600
98  Khao Sod  Thailand  600
99  Apple Daily  Taiwan  600
100  Min Sheng Pao  Taiwan  600
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