Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!nntp.gol.com!203.216.70.8.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: CL Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: multiple visa applications Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 13:59:39 +0900 Organization: FusionGOL - Global Online Japan Lines: 55 Sender: crlipton@gol.com Message-ID: References: <447d0ca6$1@news.starhub.net.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ed32.afl14.vectant.ne.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: nnrp.gol.com 1149051285 25899 163.139.117.32 (31 May 2006 04:54:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@gol.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 04:54:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041206 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.7.3.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <447d0ca6$1@news.starhub.net.sg> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0622-1, 2006/05/29), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:163143 Dustin C wrote: > Visa was applied for (by bank's attorneys) and subsequently rejected due to > lack of experience (I had letters substantiating about 98 of 120 months > experience). Maybe I have been here too long, but the very thought of a Japanese attorney failing to get a visa approved says more to me about the attorney than you. > Does one rejected application = a higher chance of another rejection (for > work visas and even holiday visas) in the future? I have never been rejected, but I know people who have been. There never seemed to be any sort of continuity to the process and it never /_seemed_/ as though filing the next application produced any sort of recognition that you've been there before. The only one that counted was the record of jumped-through hoops in the current application. > I know these are tough questions to provide answers on, (being that none of > you probably work at the immigration department! -if anyone knows anyone who > does that would be great) alas I haven't had much luck getting any info > from immigration. My early years in Japan were spent working for the auto and motorcycle industry doing engineering and technical things that Immigration swore Japanese could do. But my employers were never able to find one of these qualified people in the several minutes of diligent searching of their resumes on file. They'd issue a letter saying a variance was necessary. Then they'd give it to one of their personnel people who would go in to the local immigration office to confirm whether it would be difficult to get the visa they wanted. If they didn't hear positive things, they'd call up their ad agency in Tokyo and ask them to hire an extra copywriter for their overseas sales account. Then the ad agency would assign me to work at the factory to gain technical experience of the products. Maybe something like that would work for you? You probably won't get much helpful information from immigration unless you are in Japan and appear in person. In the Tokyo office the advice desk is in a part of the building where the regular staff can't even see you and the people who work there are pretty good at thinking outside the box. One of the former heads of Tokyo Immigration had graduated from the same law school as my father-in-law. His advice was that if you got hassled by one officer, just ask for the dossier back so you can "make corrections" and then approach the desk again when a different officer was on. Changing the order of the forms you had or making a few superficial changes to one of the pages would help prevent recognition too soon. Sometimes that could also mean coming back another day. In the early years of my marriage, I always kept a copy of his meishi in my card case, but never got the chance to pull it out. By that time I had a track record and no one was looking closely any more. CL