excuse me, my half brother is a c/c++ programming Expert! He even
wrote his own advanced Game in c++. I happened to come accross this
discussion in a search, in the which i was trying to find a group to
learn more about c++(I am a guy by the way) so try bringing the
subject up with my half borther- taikodragon@hotmail.com, if u will,
and then see how much smarter he is then what u r describing as
"stupid men," and then try bringing up the subject with me, I mean, he
even suggested i learn c++ over C and the other programming languages.