Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!gcd.org!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!nntp.gol.com!203.216.70.8.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: B Robson Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Poor People's Greatest Hits Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:26:27 +0900 Organization: FusionGOL - Global Online Japan Lines: 226 Sender: b-robson@gol.com Message-ID: References: <33eih0F40e8rsU1@individual.net> <0lIAd.3904$wZ2.677@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: h206243.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: nnrp.gol.com 1104586093 9368 61.114.206.243 (1 Jan 2005 13:28:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@gol.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:28:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en, ja, en-us In-Reply-To: <0lIAd.3904$wZ2.677@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:23932 necoandjeff wrote: > B Robson wrote: > > >>>>>>Why don't you and Gowen go and throw rocks at poor people? A >>>>>>couple of self made men like you and Gowen seem to get on well >>>>>>together, and abusing poor people seems like your style too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yes! There it is, that splendid reading comprehension skill that we >>>>>have all come to know and love. Criticism of someone for her >>>>>obvious abuse of a system designed to give assistance to the poor >>>>>is understood by you to be the equivalent of "throwing rocks at >>>>>poor people" or "abusing" them. Perhaps we could take up a >>>>>collection of books for you Brett that you could use to practice. >>>>> >>>> >>>>No, Gowen specifically refered to "his" money which of course is >>>>hypocritical, a point lost on you. That is the third time I have >>>>explained it. Do you get it now? Need to use a bigger font? >>> >>> >>>Common tactic: cover up your own stupidity by making a point that has >>>nothing to do with the one you made one (not two) post back and to >>>which I responded. >> >>You seem to have forgotten, this is what we are discussing >> "Any beer bought with my money will be bought by ME!" > > > Wow, you stick to the tactic even after it has been pointed out... > > >>>It >>>doesn't matter how long he has been working. State and federal taxes >>>are being deducted from every one of his paychecks. >> >>He has paid tax on both of them? > > > Paid taxes on both of what? I just said that state and federal taxes are > being deducted from the money he has earned. Is that not paying taxes? Both of his pay cheques. I am estimating he has received one or two pays. > > >>>Simultaneously, the >>>government is cutting checks for the woman trying to buy her beer on >>>the government's dime. >> >>Can you get someone to translate this into English please, not the >>strange dialect you use? I am quite sure the meaning you have written >>is quite different to the one you want to convey. "Cutting checks", I >>am quite sure the current administration wants to increase checks on >>buying beer with foodstamps. > > > Sorry, I have lost you with a few fairly common idioms and big words, or are > you deliberately playing stupid for lack of a point to make here. Try this: > "At the same time [that Kevin is paying state and federal taxes], the > government is paying money [i.e. cutting checks or writing checks] to the > woman who is trying to buy beer with the government's money." Common idioms being Sepponian, a dialect based on English. Cutting means to stop something. A check is an investigation or examination, ie the common idiom of "checks and balances". "Paying money" is probably "writing cheques". > > >>>Do you suppose the government takes Gowen's deductions >>>and puts it into a special account earmarked only for the national >>>guard and the armed services, or do you think some portion of his >>>taxes are being paid out to the woman abusing her food stamps? Shall >>>I draw a diagram for you Brett? >> >>Gowen seems to have made the point already. The women was trying to >>spend *his* money on beer. > > > Exactly. And she is spending the money of everyone else who pays Floriday > state taxes as well. > > >>>And the other point you made in this thread is essentially that >>>anyone who has ever been in a position of not supporting themself >>>(even though not necessarily by accepting government handouts) loses >>>their right to criticize people who take advantage of government >>>assistance. >> >>TAX, Gowen and I are talking about TAX. I am sure you have paid tax, >>you can freely criticise poor people for abusing their most generous >>welfare payments. As for me, I am glad I come from a country that >>doesn't have an underclass. > > > Yes of course: > > http://tinyurl.com/4tnfq "Homeless" people in Australia do in fact have homes. That is what bodies such as the Supported Accommodation Assistance Program does. > > >>>So I was in >>>school for 3 of the past 6 years, living off of my wife's paycheck >>>and an occasional student loan, which I am dutifully paying back as >>>we type. But criticism of welfare, and particularly those who abuse >>>it, is now off limits to me forever more. Brilliant Brett. Please >>>use a bigger font and type MY NAME IS BRETT AND I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT >>>WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND A DAMN THING I READ. >> >>Seems like you aren't just Gowen's bitch, you are your wife's bitch as >>well. Do have testicles? > > > Yes! There's the Brett I was expecting. > > >>Anyway, I am sure you will point out to all those welfare buldgers >>that they are spending your, I mean your wife's, hard earned tax. >>Hell, it's your right as a self made man, I mena, self made bitch. > > > Actually, my wife didn't have to pay taxes during the last year or so > because she was a Japanese national working at the Japanese consulate. And > I've already paid way more in state and federal income tax during the last 3 > years than she did in the first two. Education is wonderful isn't it? Shame children in your country have to take out massive loans and work a couple of jobs to get a degree of dubious value. >So yes, although Gowen's welfare > cheater was in Florida, there are plenty of people in California who are > spending my money with their food stamps. Most of them I have no problem > with. But I have big problems with those who are abusing the system. And I am sure you will point it out to them. Gowen on the other hand doesn't have the backbone. > >>>>His abuse, which you condone, is insulting the person AFTER having >>>>been rejected. Of course, I don't believe Gowen has the guts to >>>>actually say something like that directly to a person, not even a >>>>small old person. (it must rankle him being in a shop with poor >>>>people) >>> >>> >>>The rejection has nothing to do with it. His remark would have been >>>appropriate before during and after rejection, or even if she hadn't >>>been rejected. She was ABUSING THE SYSTEM Brett. >>> >> >>Lucky there are people like you and Gowen, or at least the way he >>wants to be, that can stop the abuse. How many abuses did you stop >>today? Super Jeff!!! You could write a manga! > > > God Brett, can't you pay attention just for a few posts here? It was the > teen working the register who stopped the abuse. Kevin just pointed out to > her why she was rightfully being prevented from buying beer. No, he was taking a cheap shot and you are doing your best to explain it. Of course, only you believe that he actually did what he says. > > >>>>You, however I can imagine doing exactly that. >>> >>> >>>Come on. You can do better than that. You're the guy who gets >>>downright nasty with people when they disagree with you as a way of >>>deflecting the fact that you can't seem to say anything that makes >>>any sense, aren't you Brett? >> >>You didn't deny it. > > > Actually, I doubt that I would say anything like that to someone. But I > still think it is hilarious that Kevin did. Does that still make me an > abuser of the poor? It means you are naive. Gowen's balls are kept in his mother's purse. She may or may not hand them over to the new Mrs Gowen. > > >>>>Once again it is left to you to explain what Gowen really means. Do >>>>you get tired of this? "Gowen's Poodle" might be the common >>>>venacular in your parts. >>> >>> >>>No need to explain anything to anyone who has even a modicum of >>>reading comprehension skill. Gambare! >> >> From what I have heard Keiko runs a pretty tight household. Nice to >>know Gowen has got you as a bitch. >> >>I hope you enjoyed your Happy Christmas beer. I've heard married >>people look forward to Christmas and birthdays. Did you get a fuck? > > > Yes folks, Brett is back. Nice finish. > > >>Remind me to tell you about my Christmas one day. > > > Couldn't get laid again this year eh Brett? > It was snowing and we were sick of watching TV, nothing else to do.