Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!nntp.gol.com!203.216.70.8.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: B Robson Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Private for Raj Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:24:35 +0900 Organization: FusionGOL - Global Online Japan Lines: 33 Sender: b-robson@gol.com Message-ID: References: <1099507564.292484.79620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2uuj22F2dv4skU2@uni-berlin.de> <2uujetF2fcp7aU2@uni-berlin.de> <2v062nF2h2lumU8@uni-berlin.de> <6PTid.18276$6q2.13705@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g052108.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: nnrp.gol.com 1099736672 18912 211.132.52.108 (6 Nov 2004 10:24:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@gol.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 10:24:32 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en, ja, en-us In-Reply-To: <6PTid.18276$6q2.13705@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:21218 necoandjeff wrote: > cc wrote: > >>"Kevin Gowen" wrote in message >> >> >>>Your misbelief is a common one. The Catholic Church is quite clear on >>>the need to be born again. >> >>The American Catholic Church ? That sounds to be a weird sect. >> >> >>>All Christians are born again. > > > > > Whether you call it born again or not, isn't Kevin simply referring to that > simply wonderful Christian concept that (thanks to that nasty bitch Eve) all > people are essentially born bad, evil people with wretched souls that need > to be saved in order to go to heaven. And isn't it the being saved part that > makes one "born again." I've always considered this one of the most > appealing notions of Christianity myself (right up there with "animals were > created to serve people" and "kids who disobey their parents should be put > to death.") > I also like the bit about having slaves, that's pretty cool. Unless you are the slave of course.