Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!onodera-news!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cs.utexas.edu!galaxy.us.dell.com!crtntx1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!columbine.singnet.com.sg!not-for-mail From: "David Goh" Newsgroups: fj.rec.games.shogi,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chinese-chess,rec.games.go Subject: Suggestion: 4-game (Go, Shogi, Chinese Chess and International Chess) Combined Tournament Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:16:20 +0800 Organization: N. A. Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <3f0c761d.200486031@ca.news.verio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.21.57.206 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.rec.games.shogi:4 "David J Bush" wrote in message news:f880dacf.0307100747.259b04f9@posting.google.com... > The "Shogi club 24" server is free outside Japan: > http://www.shogidojo.com/eng/engindex.htm > > Shogi is also on the Yahoo server. Sorry, I don't have a URL for that. The URL for Yahoo games is: http://games.yahoo.com/ They ONLY have Go and International Chess (under "Board Games"), but they don't have Chinese Chess and Japanese Chess (Shogi). How do you send suggestions to them to include these 2 games there ? Or are there any Yahoo people here reading this ? If they have all these 4 games (Go, Shogi, Chinese Chess and International Chess), then next time you can even hold "4-game" combined tournaments whereby each player has to play all 4 games with each opponent. That would be interesting ! Because these 4 are the most complicated and popular board games whereby computer programs are still behind the strongest human players (except for International Chess). Other intellectual games are either already "solved" (like Connect4 and Gomoku) or already dominated by computer programs (like Othello/Reversi). I'm not quite sure of Renju (the tournament version of Gomoku) but it's possible to solve this like Gomoku too. It's played like Gomoku, the official board size used is 15x15 but it adds 3 restrictions to the way the 1st player (Black) can win. The 1st play is always at the centre. Maybe Microsoft's internet gaming zone has all 4 ? I haven't been to Microsoft's and Yahoo's game sites for a long time. Nowadays I only play Go on IGS when I'm free. David