Re: Anno's sadistic game (Contains EoE spiolers)
In article <T8uaa.184227$UXa.79921@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
abaranyi@rogers.com says...
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>"5parrowhawk" <removethisbit@nathuangatsingnet.com.sg> wrote in message
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>> Anthony D. Baranyi wrote:
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>> > That's the point of my "small h" hell - the world we see is the world
>Shinji
>> > wants. He isn't "cured" at the end of the movie, unlike the implication
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>> > the end of the original TV broadcast. Shinji is now an example of
>"absolute
>> > power corrupts absolutely". So this "real world" is going to be hell on
>> > earth for Asuka.
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>> I see it another way; at the end of the TV broadcast Shinji is by no
>> means "cured". As a result of Instrumentality, he's living in an
>> absolute delusion where all the things he craves - "Be kind to me! Be
>> nice to me! Accept me! Praise me!" are coming true. I mean, didn't you
>> find that scene just a bit disturbing in a too-good-to-be-true way?
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>It comes over more as a schizophrenic's delusion than reality.
This IS Anno's work, after all...
>> In the movie Shinji (and Asuka, and possibly a handful of others) reject
>> Instrumentality. I submit to the school of thought which says Asuka
didn't
>> actually get eaten by the M-P Evas (the corpse of her Eva is still
>visible,
>> and there's no indication IIRC that the entry plug was consumed. That
must
>> have Hurt, though.)
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>Hmmm - I'd have to rewatch that part of the movie again and more closely.
>But even so, assuming that she survived, her current existence is being
>controlled to a fair extent by Shinji - she didn't go into her Eva in
>bandages and what not, and is now.
On the other hand, EVA-02 was trashed with extreme prejudice by the
MPEs. And even if the entry plug protected Asuka from the lances
and tearing apart, she could easily have gotten banged up after
our last sight of her to the point that she NEEDS those bandages...
Also, I'd point out that we don't see Rei comes for Asuka; it may
be that she and Shnji were the only ones who came through Third
Impact with their AT fields intact.
>The similarity to the way that Shinji
>first sees Rei is too close - it appears that Shinji has contrived to have
>Asuka take the place of Rei.
Actually, the FIRST time Shinji sees Rei is that unexplained
spectral appearance just before the Angel attack...
>This removes the guilt of his incestuous
>feelings for Rei, while leaving Asuka totally in his power.
You are assuming Shinji has power in this brave new world.
Without Rei, I don't think he does.
FW
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