Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!ebi!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.news2me.com!west.cox.net!cox.net!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!NetNews1!attdv2!attdv1!ip.att.net!news.fsr.net!not-for-mail From: fwhite*NOSPAM*@colfax.com (Frank White) Newsgroups: japan.anime.evangelion Subject: Re: Delurking and some thoughts.. Date: 17 Oct 2002 14:16:16 GMT Organization: colfax.com by PalouseNet Lines: 89 Message-ID: References: <3DAD8850.7156D643@ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g036157.col.dialup.fsr.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.fsr.net 1034864176 36142 65.164.36.157 (17 Oct 2002 14:16:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@fsr.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Oct 2002 14:16:16 GMT X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.11 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org japan.anime.evangelion:2976 In article <3DAD8850.7156D643@ptd.net>, golbez@ptd.net says... > >Greetings all.. > >I've been lurking here for a while now, and my recent viewing (and >subsequent re-viewings) of the Evangelion movies have prompted me to >actually post something. For reference, I've seen the whole series in >both Japanese and English at least thrice, and while I can't claim to >have seen it when it was new, I did make sure to make the trips to >Suncoast to purchase each DVD upon it's domestic release within a day or >two (movies included). > >Anyways, the movies have naturally caused my interest in the series to >peak, and I've been doing a lot of reading on various groups, forums and >sites, garnering what information I can. As expected with something like >Eva, however, there's still many questions that remain unanswered, and >perhaps I could bring up one particular one while I'm at it.. > >-- If the Eva's possess souls, whose are in each one? > >Well, we know that Shinji and Asuka's mothers are in EVA-01 and EVA-02 >respectively, and it's almost certain that Naoko Akagi is in EVA-00 >(besides the chalk outline and blood, we never see the aftermath of her >death).. The problem with this idea is, you need to be ALIVE to have your soul transferred into an EVA. There's nothing to suggest Naoko survived her swan dive even for a second, or that they tried synching her prior to that. It's an appealing idea given that it involves the mother of one of the main characters - which seems to be a major thread GE - but it doesn't seem to quite fit. Neither does the idea that it's MISATO'S mother in EVA-00, because Misato was originally intended to be an EVA pilot. In a way it fits (and it would mean that 00's attack on the window was an attempt to rescue her daughter from what she realized were her enemies); but it wouldn't explain how Rei was able to synch, or what Shinji felt in it... >but what about the others? EVA-04 never had any screentime as >far as I know, seeing as how it blew up on activation and all, and >EVA-03 was possessed by an Angel.. heck, we never even saw Toji in the >entry plug while it was active, so I can't even say for certain who >would be in there. Toji's little sister would seem to be the best candidate. She was injured in the first episode, which would put her in NERV's grasp. And she never seems to recover... >We know from one of the earliest episodes (3 & 4) that Kensuke doesn't >have a mother.. and from the way Toji speaks similarly, he probably >doesn't either. And it's later learned that all the children in class >2-A are candidates for Eva piloting.. was Toji's mother in EVA-03 then? >If so, since when did he ever have a connection to NERV / SEELE prior to >being "chosen"? > >The fact that EVA-03 and EVA-04 were being built in the United States >instead of Japan complicates things even further.. > >THEN AGAIN, we never see or hear any mention of EVA-03 using or >generating an AT Field at all, and if it lacked a soul, that'd certainly >make it easy to possess since there wouldn't be any opposing force. That >coincidentally happens to be the reason that Tabris.. err, Kaworu was >able to control EVA-02 when Asuka went comatose.. there was no willpower >to resist him. > >But then on the other hand, what the heck good would an Evangelion be if >it didn't have it's most powerful offensive and defensive weapon, the AT >Field? They built the thing just so it could go berserk? That seems >unlikely.. > >Is ignorance bliss, or does anyone else have thoughts on this? I won't >even get started on ideas for the Mass Production Units.. ;P They've got Dummy Plugs. Guess who the Dummy Plugs are based on. And why if they'd been facing Shinji, not Asuka, they might have not been so savage. ^_^ FW