Walt wrote:
> TXZZ wrote:
> 
>> at least 2/3 of US presidents, speakers of the house, cheif of
>> supreme courts, secretaries of whatever, and at least of a third of
>> the house of representatives were southern, despite the south
>> having only a quarter of the voting populace; and northerners
>> attacked the south in a fit of jealous rage, blaming "slavery",
>> even though the north had a worker's rights record that would put
>> slavery to shame, having vastly more workers die in accidents
>> without compensation to their families.
>> 
>> When will the sick jealousy of northerners end?
> 
> 
> Northerners in 1860 would have said that the southern obstructionism 
> was hindering the progress of the country.
> 
> They would have said that changing demographics were shifting the
> power from south to north.
> 
> They would have said - no way in Hell are you destroying the
> government ordained by the Framers.
> 
The government formed by the framers wasn't perfect.  They knew that. 
They expected changes would be made, some peaceful, some not so peaceful.

> They did say it.
> 
> "South Carolina...cannot get out of this Union until she conquers
> this government. The revenues must and will be collected at her
> ports,

So, it's about the money.

  and any resistance on her part will lead to war. At the close
> of that war we can tell with certainty whether she is in or out of
> the Union. While this government endures there can be no
> disunion...If the overt act on the part of South Carolina takes place
> on or after the 4th of March, 1861, then the duty of executing the
> laws will devolve upon Mr. Lincoln. The laws of the United States
> must be executed-- the President has no discretionary power on the
> subject -- his duty is emphatically pronounced in the Constitution.
> Mr. Lincoln will perform that duty. Disunion by armed force is
> treason, and treason must and will be put down at all hazards. The
> Union is not, and cannot be dissolved until this government is
> overthrown by the traitors who have raised the disunion flag. Can
> they overthrow it? We think not."
> 
> Illinois State Journal, November 14, 1860
> 
An editorial from a yankee newspaper proves nothing, other than the
confused opinion of the writer, who is obviously unfamiliar with the 
constitution.



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