in article W0Gwd.204$mj4.68@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net, Simon at
shepshep1@excite.com wrote on 12/18/04 4:00 AM:

> 
> "Declan Murphy" <declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41C291CA.8060900@hotmail.com...
>> Simon wrote:
>>> "Declan Murphy" <declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:41C110DE.3060901@hotmail.com...
>>> 
>>>> Simon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> "Declan Murphy" <declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:41C02D36.200@hotmail.com...
>> 
>>>>>> Another martyr for old Ireland
>>>>>> Another murder for the crown
>>>>>> Whose brutal laws may kill the Irish
>>>>>> But can't keep their spirits down
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can't stop the bastards putting bombs in bins and killing children, a
>>>>> proud heritage.
>>>> 
>>>> Which song are those lyrics from?
>>> 
>>> Irish terrorists like to sing about being victimised, they don't sing
>>> about their innocent victims.
>> 
>> Yes. It has always bugged me that instead of singing about an event that
>> occurred (in this instance) about 85 years ago, Irish terrorists (on both
>> sides) don't instead follow the shining example of their perceived
>> adversaries and issue wordy press releases many years after the event. "It
>> is with very deep regret that the Ministry of Defence confirms that the
>> operation resulted in substantial collateral damage... etc" It would be so
>> much more civilised.
>> 
>>> Sorry to be a killjoy but it pisses me off when people quote bullshit
>>> from songs by terrorist child murderers
>> 
>> Kevin Barry was a teenager when the British Army executed him. To the best
>> of my knowledge he didn't kill any children. Given the behaviour of
>> certain recent governments, this appears to have been a bad thing.
> 
> He called himself a soldier, he was involved in the killing of 6 British
> soldiers so he got what he deserved. Jonathan Ball, 3 years old, Tim Parry,
> 12, did they get what they deserved?

The story of Ireland is not a pretty one, sort of like the story of the
Middle East. Both sides have done a lot of things that were morally wrong,
and both sides killed plenty of innocent children. If there is to be peace
in Ireland, both sides are going to have to forgive the other, instead of
enjoying their martyrdom.