in article 2tm9juF2281fsU1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
wrote on 10/20/04 1:58 PM:

> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
> news:BD9C1749.29A7F%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
>> in article 2tm6vbF211ck1U1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
>> wrote on 10/20/04 1:13 PM:
>> 
>>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>>> news:BD9BC081.29A25%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
>>>> in article 2tkihtF1u6qi4U1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
>>>> wrote on 10/19/04 10:18 PM:
>>>> 
>>>>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>>>>> news:BD9B121F.298FB%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
>>>>>> in article 2tk55uF215ktfU1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
>>>>>> wrote on 10/19/04 6:30 PM:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>>>>>>> One of the reasons why Japanese scholars of modern history use the
>>>>>>> term "Nanking Incident" would be that the debate is included a question
>>>>>>> whether or not the "Rape" really took place.  If they use the term "Rape
>>>>>>> of Nanking"you like, then it follows that they have to argue on the
>>>>>>> assumption that the "Rape" really happened.  As a scholar they are
>>>>>>> unwilling to deal with such an unexamined conviction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Rape of Nanking didn't happen? I suppose you believe the Holocaust
>>>>>> didn't happen either? This act of denial is telling, as telling as the
>>>>>> denial of the Holocaust by neo-Nazis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have already said that my position is close to Professor Hata's one.
>>>>> I estimate the number of the Chinese victims at 40,000-50,000. If you
>>>>> still suppose I believe the incident didn't happen, I doubt about your
>>>>> ability of English. My mother used to say "Don't tell a lie, Masayuki".
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, so you estimate the number of Chinese victims at 40,000-50,000, so
>>>> why
>>>> do you say: "One of the reasons why Japanese scholars of modern history use
>>>> the term "Nanking Incident" would be that the debate is included a question
>>>> whether or not the "Rape" really took place."
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think the rape occurred? Do you doubt that the Japanese military
>>>> committed atrocities? Do you think the 40,000-50,000 deaths were justified?
>>>> 
>>>> There seems to be a conflict between your most recent statement and that of
>>>> the time before. I am not trying to trick you, instead I am trying to get
>>>> you to clarify your remarks.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, I doubt the high numbers of the Chinese estimates and the real
>>>> low numbers of the Japanese apologists. I don't doubt that rape and murder
>>>> was used as a military tactic to scare other Chinese cities into surrender.
>>> 
>>> http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/China/Nanjing/nanjing4.html
>> 
>> So you doubt that the Rape of Nanking occurred?
>> 
>>> 
>>>>>>>> If I had read more books in Japanese would it mean that your comments
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> sound a tad less bigoted or more bigoted? If so, why?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whatever you may say, it is just a description, which means you have
>>>>>>> not given an explanation.  I don't think I'm bigoted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have no doubt that you believe you are not bigoted. You simply feel
>>>>>> superior to the Chinese
>>>>> 
>>>>> No. I like Chinese people and things, such as old poems, foods,
>>>> 
>>>> I judged you a bigot because of your general remarks about the Chinese
>>>> people as over-emotional, over-political, and having a tendency to
>>>> exaggerate. I asked for clarification if you really believed that, and you
>>>> affirmed that you did feel that way. Are you willing to admit that your
>>>> statements were a tad extreme and don't really reflect your true opinion of
>>>> the Chinese people?
>>> 
>>> I bet you that you are more emotional and political than Chinese,
>>> Mr. Schaal.
>> 
>> Wow, I gather you really are the bigot that your statements make you out to
>> be.
>> 
>> 
>>>>>> because they are so "political" and "emotional" and
>>>>>> they "prefer exaggerations." I am sure the average Nazi didn't feel
>>>>>> bigoted
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't see a direct connection between my reading habits
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> your apparent racism and bigotry.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Racism and bigotry?  Prove.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You proved it with your own words.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did such a defense skill have a swift effect in courtroom?
>>>> 
>>>> My lawyer training did help in analyzing in flaws in arguments.
>>> 
>>> Saying something to you is so vain.
>> 
>> I am sure that you thought that you were being cute in criticizing me for
>> being a lawyer, but that training is one of the things that helped me see
>> through your arguments to the bigotry on which it is based.
>> 
>> The more you write the more you prove that my opinion about you is correct.
> 
> http://winn.com/bs/lawyer-riddles.html
> 
> Masayuki

So rather than answer serious questions about your apparent bigotry against
your neighbor, you make lawyer jokes?