Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.tutrp.tut.ac.jp!newsgw.ayashii.or.jp!news.moat.net!news2.euro.net!62.253.162.218.MISMATCH!news-in.ntli.net!newsrout1-win.ntli.net!ntli.net!newspeer1-win.ntli.net!newsfe6-gui.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Simon" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan References: <327if2F3icdacU1@individual.net> <41C02D36.200@hotmail.com> <41C110DE.3060901@hotmail.com> <41C291CA.8060900@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: BBC reports on latest fads Lines: 64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <4XOwd.25$M27.2@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 05:08:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.106.145.198 X-Complaints-To: http://www.ntlworld.com/netreport X-Trace: newsfe6-gui.ntli.net 1103346496 213.106.145.198 (Sat, 18 Dec 2004 05:08:16 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 05:08:16 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:23638 "Ernest Schaal" wrote in message news:BDE9705B.2EA7E%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp... > in article W0Gwd.204$mj4.68@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net, Simon at > shepshep1@excite.com wrote on 12/18/04 4:00 AM: > >> >> "Declan Murphy" wrote in message >> news:41C291CA.8060900@hotmail.com... >>> Simon wrote: >>>> "Declan Murphy" wrote in message >>>> news:41C110DE.3060901@hotmail.com... >>>> >>>>> Simon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Declan Murphy" wrote in message >>>>>> news:41C02D36.200@hotmail.com... >>> >>>>>>> Another martyr for old Ireland >>>>>>> Another murder for the crown >>>>>>> Whose brutal laws may kill the Irish >>>>>>> But can't keep their spirits down >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't stop the bastards putting bombs in bins and killing children, a >>>>>> proud heritage. >>>>> >>>>> Which song are those lyrics from? >>>> >>>> Irish terrorists like to sing about being victimised, they don't sing >>>> about their innocent victims. >>> >>> Yes. It has always bugged me that instead of singing about an event that >>> occurred (in this instance) about 85 years ago, Irish terrorists (on >>> both >>> sides) don't instead follow the shining example of their perceived >>> adversaries and issue wordy press releases many years after the event. >>> "It >>> is with very deep regret that the Ministry of Defence confirms that the >>> operation resulted in substantial collateral damage... etc" It would be >>> so >>> much more civilised. >>> >>>> Sorry to be a killjoy but it pisses me off when people quote bullshit >>>> from songs by terrorist child murderers >>> >>> Kevin Barry was a teenager when the British Army executed him. To the >>> best >>> of my knowledge he didn't kill any children. Given the behaviour of >>> certain recent governments, this appears to have been a bad thing. >> >> He called himself a soldier, he was involved in the killing of 6 British >> soldiers so he got what he deserved. Jonathan Ball, 3 years old, Tim >> Parry, >> 12, did they get what they deserved? > > The story of Ireland is not a pretty one, sort of like the story of the > Middle East. Both sides have done a lot of things that were morally wrong, > and both sides killed plenty of innocent children. If there is to be peace > in Ireland, both sides are going to have to forgive the other, instead of > enjoying their martyrdom. That's not going to happen.