Path: news.ccsf.jp!tomockey.ddo.jp!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!post01.iad01!news.shared-secrets.com!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:53:03 +0900 From: CL User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Tired of Nihon. References: <1f44614b-172a-4ab6-94bb-d76164552ad6@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <25978ec0-3491-4f7e-bd39-cc116ef43fe0@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <5d267306-f0a1-4301-97fc-27b59c5ef43a@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <2812efe4-56a1-44fe-b1bb-9a6cb2d655cf@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1i8v3fa.1rj4nsg3e9ox1N%trap_for_junk_mail@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1i8v3fa.1rj4nsg3e9ox1N%trap_for_junk_mail@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071208-0, 2007-12-08), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 29 Message-ID: <475ba688$0$22516$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com> Organization: Unknown X-Complaints-To: abuse@shared-secrets.com Xref: news.ccsf.jp fj.life.in-japan:166463 Louise Bremner wrote: > Medgya wrote: > >> On Dec 9, 9:34 am, "John W." wrote: >>> I've thought this for some time. Most people I know stay because of >>> the social pressure or the overtime pay, or a combination of both. >> Yes, I think that's about it, and it's fascinating to watch. At my own >> company it's all social pressure, since they have devised effective >> social means to prevent people from requesting overtime pay. I suppose >> that, if there is to be any rebellion, it would start with (gasp) >> people leaving on time. Or in the case of some younger people these >> days, never signing on for the full-time salaryman/OL life at all. > > Hence the rising numbers of freeters? (Are there any stats on those? Or > is it all vague arm-waving?) Yes, I'd like to know, too. In the reports I prepare for foreign clients, I've been blaming Keidanren for having no standards and promoting the expansion of the cheap labor pool by making full-time employment increasingly unobtainable. > I think that, if I'd've been faced with such a choice, I'd've gone > freeter myself.... There are many reasons for wanting to be a freeter. Unfortunately for Japan, they are dangerously close to the reasons for emigrating. -- CL