Path: news.ccsf.jp!tomockey.ddo.jp!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!f31g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Declan Murphy Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Winter jinbei Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 23:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 71 Message-ID: <3a35a293-ddbc-4bef-99a5-8baf623ff3f4@f31g2000pri.googlegroups.com> References: <5978d43b-e2ea-4aab-97f0-dda0910a7833@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.221.176.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1305614990 4820 127.0.0.1 (17 May 2011 06:49:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f31g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=123.221.176.51; posting-account=dFdNnAoAAACo_-792nICp6wBtnsk5ZbZ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1,gzip(gfe) Xref: news.ccsf.jp fj.life.in-japan:169971 On May 17, 8:20=A0am, chuckers wrote: > On Monday, May 16, 2011 3:56:59 PM UTC+9, Declan Murphy wrote: > > On May 16, 11:16=A0am, CL wrote: > > > On 05/16/2011 10:14 AM, chuckers wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, May 15, 2011 11:45:19 PM UTC+9, Fustbariclation wrote: > > > >> It's getting a bit chilly for my summer jinbei - I'm in the Southe= rn > > > >> Hemisphere. > > > > >> I was wondering if anybody knew anything about winter jinbei. Is t= here > > > >> a different design? What material(s) are they made from? > > > > >> Most importantly, is there somewhere I can buy them from mail orde= r > > > >> (on-line ideally)? > > > > > Not really winter jinbei but I think you might want a samue or hant= en. =A0I just packed away my hanten for the season. =A0Use it every winter. > > > > > I will stick with jeans though. =A0jinbei/samue don't really do it = for me. > > > > When you look for hanten, make sure you don't fall for the "lined hap= pi > > > coat" scam some places lay on you. =A0I looked at some online sellers= and > > > think you ought to demand they pay for the KY jelly. =A0They can affo= rd it > > > at the markups they are charging -- US$ 65.00 (JPY 5,300) for a hante= n > > > that you can get at the local Komeri or Kasumi for JPY 800 is a very > > > good deal ... for the seller. > > > > Then you'll need your white cotton long underwear bottoms and tops, p= lus > > > three pairs of fuzzy socks, to be worn simultaneously. > > > > The ultimate winter accessory, though, is a kotatsu, kotatsu cover, > > > kotatsu chair (adjustable, of course) and a case of 1.8 liter bottles= of > > > mugi-jochu and a 2 liter hot water pot for your oyuwari (umeboshi > > > optional, although they put quartered cucumber slices in it in Hakata= ). > > > =A0 What you need to do is locate all of them in front of the TV with= the > > > refrigerator (filled with cup noodle and beer) and microwave in easy > > > reach. > > > > A nineteen-year-old kotatsu mate, or several to be installed on a > > > rotating basis, is a very much added plus. > > > I still haven't bothered obtaining a kotatsu. Other than hori-kotatsu, > > everytime I've sat at one its been uncomfortable. Never enough leg > > room, no support for my back, etc etc. Do you have an unusually large > > kotatsu or something? > > Back support is provided by the za-isu (sold separately.) =A0Apparently, = so is the blanket/comforter you are put between the table top and the legs = but it didn't say that on the box. =A0In my single days, I got caught out b= y that. =A0So, the kotatsu ended up being a chabudai that I would pile all = kinds of crap onto or rest my feet on when I was sitting on the low couch b= ehind it. =A0Eventually, it had to be given to the sodai-gomi people becaus= e the spousal unit didn't think it would work well with the imagined interi= or (not imagined by me.) A hori-kotatsu would solve those problems I think. During the winter when I'm doing some work at home, I just put the laptop on the dining room table and use a small space heater. Okazaki winters are pretty mild though.