Re: Floridians against the spread of homosexual values
necoandjeff wrote:
> Kevin Gowen wrote:
>
>>necoandjeff wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin Gowen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>necoandjeff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"The U.S. Supreme Court refused on Monday to hear a constitutional
>>>>>challenge to a 1977 Florida law that bans gays and lesbians from
>>>>>adopting children, the only such state law in the nation."
>>>>>
>>>>>Kevin, you must be a proud bunch to be the only state stupid enough
>>>>>to actually think that gays make unfit parents.
>>>>
>>>>Florida doesn't think anything of the kind. The gays are as free to
>>>>procreate as anyone else.
>>>
>>>
>>>Which just demonstrates how stupid this law really is. To be
>>>consistent with the only remotely socially acceptable
>>>rationalization for such a law (avoiding the psychology harm to
>>>children, for which there isn't a shred of evidence, but it sounds
>>>good enough), it would have to prevent homosexuals from procreating
>>>in addition to adopting.
>>
>>Kind of like how we don't recognize incestuous marriage but do not
>>prevent incestuous procreation. (by artifical means; incestuous sexual
>>intercourse is a crime under Florida law) Please, the argument about
>>"consistency" is a loser.
>
>
> Again I have to say, the reason you dislike argument by analogy so much is
> simply that you suck at making analogies...
No, I dislike argument by analogy is that it does not offer deductive
conclusions.
I'm having trouble seeing the analogy. Could you put it into A:B::C:D
format for me? That would help.
> Your resting your argument on the
> unwillingness of the legislature to impose forced abortions? Yes, that's
> quite a surprising result isn't it...
I don't know any people who rest their arguments on the unwillingness of
the legislature to impose forced abortions, so I cannot respond to straw
man arguments involving them.
>>>But of course Mr. Peterson, the
>>>law's sponsor and Floridian extraodinaire, was kind of enough to
>>>articulate for us the real reason behind the law: "the purpose of
>>>the legislation was to send a message to gays and lesbians that
>>>'we're really tired of you. We wish you'd go back into the closet.'"
>>>Yes, a proud state indeed, that Florida.
>>
>>California should be prouder. It only took two tries to outlaw sex
>>with human corpses.
>>http://tinyurl.com/3njsw
>>
>>Apparently, a man's having sex with the corpse of a four-year-old girl
>>was insufficient to move the legislature.
>
>
> I appreciate the fact that your own personal moral outrage regarding the
> behavior of those out on the left coast may be a higher priority for you
> than several hundred living children currently in need of a home in your own
> state,
"Gee, Officer, why did you pull me over for speeding? Shouldn't you be
out arresting rapists and murderers?"
> but would you care to compare the number of heretofore unprosecutable
> cases of necrophilia in California (let's not include those who have sex
> with people they have just killed, since those people are already subject to
> prosecution and fairly harsh penalties,
I see that you oppose hate-crime legislation. We agree!
> which means we're basically left
> with the odd rogue morgue employee) with the number of kids available for
> adoption or the number of homosexuals in Florida willing to provide a loving
> home to a child in need?
Lots of people are willing to provide a loving home to a child in need.
That fact does not matter.
- Kevin
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