Path: news.ccsf.jp!tomockey.ddo.jp!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s21.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) Be Proudly EGALITARIAN. The *Right* is Usually WRONG!" Newsgroups: fj.kanji,alt.abortion Subject: Re: Abortion is a SIN!!! Organization: APIFAR -- Association for the Protection of Individual Freedoms And Rights Reply-To: xanadu222_@mchsi.com Message-ID: <1pvhr4117b8q49sb37u5giejf3ft26h8q7@4ax.com> References: <6c63e852-9d29-48bb-bff2-739f4bcc29ba@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 193 NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.19.110.28 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mchsi.com X-Trace: attbi_s21 1236860936 173.19.110.28 (Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:28:56 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:28:56 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:28:56 GMT Xref: news.ccsf.jp fj.kanji:583 On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:42:53 -0700 (PDT), Harald Gentexeater wrote: > Abortion is a SIN!!! That is IGNORANT and LYING bullcrap. HERE is the TRUTH -- ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA *(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73) Abortion, just like aspirin, is nothing more than a valuable REMEDY for an unwanted medical condition. Folks who are Pro-Choice are not "pro-abortion" any more than there are any such people as those who are "pro-aspirin." People who are Pro-Choice regarding abortion defend the right of all girls and women to have ready, unfettered, and legal ACCESS to that remedy. And they would defend the right of girls and women to have no impairments to ACCESS to the right to full gestation, if *that* were their choice -- if there were any loons running around seeking to deprive them of that option. Thus, Pro- Choicers are sometimes misperceived as favoring one option over the other. They do not. They support both options EQUALLY. The misperception happens because the remedy of abortion is the *only* one of the two options that has a crowd of hateful, screeching, and ignorant bigots opposing it. ANTI-Choice louts irrationally seek to impose immense hardship upon more than a million girls and women per year, in the USA, by again FORCING them to gestate to term, against their will, as was the case in the Pre-Roe vs. Wade Dark Ages. A very real, 9-month-long form of RAPE. Such a scenario would cause the loss of HUGE ranges of future opportunities to those girls and women, unless they were able to afford travel to FREE locations where abortion was still safe, legal and unfettered. ANTI-Choicers are sociopaths, and are totally without excuse. (And to date, NO Anti-Choicer or RRR Cultist (usually the same people) has ever yet been able to refute ANY of the points made in this article. Which shows how*monumentally* morally-bankrupt they truly are.) To see a grave and long-term DANGER to America, if McCain wins the upcoming election, please read these; in each case the components of the URLS follow, in case one or both get shortened in posting.) --- http://apifar.blogspot.com/2007/11/vital-warning-unseen-unheeded-now.html http:// apifar.blogspot.com/ 2007/11/vital-warning-unseen-unheeded-now.html http://apifar.blogspot.com/2007/12/surreal-alternate-reality-if-democrats.html http:// apifar.blogspot.com/ 2007/12/surreal-alternate-reality-if-democrats.html Abortions obtained by girls and women terminate three of the four of the reproductive-process entities (RPEs): zygotes, embryoes & fetuses, up until the 7th month** of gestation) which have ALL of these characteristics in common with the first stage -- gametes (sperm and ova): -- Human -- Unique -- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth -- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness* -- Alive ...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents try to defend the later three stages of the reproductive process but NOT the Stage One entities (gametes). ** (AFTER the 7th month of gestation begins, conscious awareness may be possible, but all the other of the above- listed attributes still apply. (But by then, the ONLY abortions being performed are for medical emergencies.) In fact, the procedure that Anti-Choicers LYINGLY call "partial-birth abortion" NEVER was. It is the MID-term procedure whose REAL name is ID&E: intact Dilation and Extraction. Which was almost always done around 4-1/2 MONTHS *before* birth typically occurs. Anti-Choicers are almost universally DEVOID of honest. And usually, too, of much in the way of intelligence.) And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the majority of Americans; 83% of them: -- In NO way condemns abortion. -- Doesn't even MENTION abortion. -- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs. -- Contains NO defenses of RPEs as people. -- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people -- That it regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is made clear by it's immense emphasis on the import- ance it ascribes to BIRTH order, BIRTHrights. and first-BORNS. -- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths. -- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about fertilization. -- Thus making gametes (the Stage One RPEs) *equal* in worth to the other three stages. -- More than a QUADRILLION gametes are electively aborted DAILY, worldwide... by *men.* All of which had been *potential* and unique people. Abortion-on-request enables women to: -- Put their lives back on track immediately. -- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels. -- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision. -- Most women have NO regrets afterward. -- Restore their full range of future opportunities to PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. Immediately! -- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy. -- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16. -- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term. -- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later. -- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out, and those losing the chance to pursue many of the future opportunities that they formerly had had. -- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation. -- Avoid bringing a child into a less-loving home. -- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment. -- Wait until timing is better before having children. -- Who then are MORE likely to be loved. -- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home. -- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods. -- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals. -- And thus are MORE likely to become successful. Legal abortion-on-request: -- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions. -- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr. -- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973. -- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them. -- Between 1973 and 2008, 45 million abortions have been done. Other related facts include: -- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later, when the timing is better . -- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and ova would not have matched up. -- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the early 1990s. -- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this continues into the early 20s. -- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are LESS prone to criminal behavior. -- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached the age where they could be getting quite successful. -- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA has declined dramatically, and by 2000 had reached 40-year lows in many categories. -- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date, in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic period of time for any nation in the entire history of the world, despite temporary fluctuations. Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy is normally QUITE strong, and will be again, once the current and temporary worldwide recession has run its course. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire world. -- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me. 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