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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, fnci@comcast.net Frank J) wrote to talk.origins
to respond to this posting by Ed Conrad:
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>> More than 50 years ago, the late, great Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky
>> combined supreme intelligence and incredible courage
>> to write "Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval."
>> >
>> His two books set the Scientific Establishment back on its
>> unscrupulous heels, offering the undeniable physical evidence
>> that the Good Earth had NOT been sleeping peacefully
>> for countless eons as it had so long insisted.
>> >
>> Instead, the late, great Immanuel Velikovsky presented a different
>> picture of the earth's past: mindboggling, horrific catastrophes,
>> some of which had torn both man and animal from limb to limb.
>> >
>> It is a matter of historical record that the late, great Immanuel
>> Velikovsky had been subjected to the very worse that the Scientific
>> Establishment could offer -- the victim of deceit, deception,
>> collusion and conspiracy, as well as relentless assassination
>> upon his character.
>> >
>> Well, this vicious assault upon truth continues to this very day, but
>> with one BIG difference .
>> >
>> The Internet has given John Q. Public a ringside seat to the sewer
>> tactics employed by members of the Pseudoscientifc Establishment 
>> in their adamant denial of the physical evidence that confirms --
>> beyond all doubt -- Man as Old as Coal (and maybe a great deal older).
>> >
>SNIP
>
> ... I would appreciate an answer to a simple obvious
> question, that for some odd reason, no one seems to ask:
>
> Since chimps share almost all their DNA with humans, are they too
> as >old as coal?
>
Hell, no!
>
The banana, you see, wasn't invented until 42,355 B.C.
>
Ed Conrad
> http://www.edconrad.com
>
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GREATEST COVERUP IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/ManasOldasCoal/Discoveries.jpg
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> "Any suggestion that scientists
> so dearly love truth, that they
> have not the slightest hesitation
> in jettisoning their beliefs, is
> a mean perversion of the facts."
>           I. Bernard Cohen
> (professor of history and science
>         at Harvard University)
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as stated in "The Velikovsky Affair: 
 The Warfare Between Science and Scientism"
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>             OLDEST HUMAN SKULL EVER FOUND 
<      All Discoveries Between Penna. Anthracite Veins
> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z11calv.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/images/krogwskull.jpg 
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Wilton Krogman, one of the world's foremost experts 
on human anatomy,holds what he had identified as 
a petrified human calvarium, a skull with the eye 
sockets broken off, that was discovered between Penna's 
anthracite veins. He is shown at his desk at the Cooper 
Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., where moments later he 
beckoned a colleague -- a medical doctor -- to examine 
"the oldest human skull ever found." 
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A CATscan was performed on this specimen with 
favorable results. 
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> http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg 
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Meanwhile, Haversian canals were identified in the cell 
structure, the tell-tale sign of bone. And dried blood 
was found on the specimen during testing at American 
MedicalLaboratories in Chantilly, Va. 
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This is the official report from AML which had performed 
Calculus Analysis by Crystallography. The final report, 
dated April 21, 2000, was issued by Dr. Nathan Sherman, 
director of laboratories. 
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>>> "The specimen consists of 1 irregularly 
>>>  shaped, brown calculus weighing less 
>>>  than 0.0010 grams and measuring 1X1X0.5 
>>>  mm. No nidus is observed. The calculi 
>>>  indicates a composition of dried blood 
>>>  intermingled with a few small crystals 
>>>  resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate." 
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> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z12calv.jpg 
> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z13cav.jpg 
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>  MORE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE ABOUT MAN'S ANTIQUITY  
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Here's a petrified human femur still embedded in slate. 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg 
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This is the boulder containing the complete human skull. 
Testing has confirmed the presence of Haversian canals 
and American Medical Laboratories discovered it contains 
dried blood. 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg 
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Here's a giant petrified tooth. 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg 
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Here's a petrified dinosaur foot still embedded in slate. 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg 
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Here are several views of a portion of a giant prehistoric 
scorpion identified as such by Krogman. 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-010S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG 
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>Here are two views of a piece of wood that appears to 
> to have been andcarved for use as a tool or a weapon. 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-001S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-002S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-004S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG 
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(And there are a whole lot more...) 
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>> Ed Conrad 
>  http://www.edconrad.com 
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