Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!teal.octanews.net!be1-003.octanews.net!pink.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!mauve.octanews.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!207.115.63.142.MISMATCH!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: declan_murphy@hotmail.com Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: cultural visa to japan Date: 9 Aug 2006 07:34:00 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 26 Message-ID: <1155134040.676942.293880@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154982279.806185.202430@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44d87f0b$0$22359$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1155053939.319272.159140@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155106777.398722.85320@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 220.159.28.66 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1155134045 24172 127.0.0.1 (9 Aug 2006 14:34:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:34:05 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Alexa Toolbar),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=220.159.28.66; posting-account=XTFokQ0AAAB4DUZc9t8fM3qc5a_bh2nQ Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:164104 Paul Blay wrote: > wrote ... > > Paul Blay wrote: > >> wrote ... > >> >B Anderson wrote: > >> >> Just get a fake degree... they never check. > >> > > >> > Umm, yes they do. > >> > >> So the 64 thousand yen question is ... how did the pair of > >> you 'know'? > > > > In my case through the training courses I had to attend at Immigration > > in order to become a visa proxy. I'm still quite amazed at the quality > > of fake documents simple desktop publishing can cheaply come up with. > > So now I have the tough decision of weighing that up against "Heresay, > but also my intuition." ;-) Depends. The intuition came partly from watching some pretty "I really want one of those" pieces of technology, but also from having documents from fly-by-night-operations (Harvard, Union Bank of Switzerland etc) questioned and shown up. The tricky documents are those from less developed countries. They are too simple to be proved fake, and are not infrequently genuine docs provided from bribed officials.