Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!news.moat.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!news-out.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: declan_murphy@hotmail.com Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Average Cost of living in Japan. Date: 13 Apr 2006 06:24:18 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 55 Message-ID: <1144934658.033705.67120@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1144887084.313792.143680@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1hdqcr9.13qzx5b1h5qbb4N%trap_for_junk_mail@yahoo.com> <1144920608.890545.143760@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1hdqzcj.1nvm6gdx7dy42N%trap_for_junk_mail@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.215.53.67 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1144934663 15806 127.0.0.1 (13 Apr 2006 13:24:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:24:23 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1hdqzcj.1nvm6gdx7dy42N%trap_for_junk_mail@yahoo.com> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Alexa Toolbar),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=202.215.53.67; posting-account=-TKBDwwAAADHGnl4su1VEeEJSFaZkQzO Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:162309 Louise Bremner wrote: > wrote: > > > Louise Bremner wrote: > > > For a largish house with absolutely no insulation, we're paying > > > something like an average of Y20,000 a month *gulp* for electricity, > > > water, and mains gas (LPG is only out in the countryside). > > > > That isn't so bad though is it? > > Considering that we never seem to be able to get warm in the winter, it > seems pretty high to me.... I doubt that my house is any better insulated, but warm winters are easy. All that is required is a 堀炬燵, chocolate, a waterbed, a good stash of fine Irish whiskey and an active sex life. Or so I've heard. > > For 2 people, especially if you cook > > and work mostly at home? My place (2 storey townhouse, way too big for > > me) runs at about 12,000 a month. Its the telecoms and fuel bills that > > bite the budget. > > I decided not to mention the telecom expenses, seeing as how they are so > variable. My overall telecom bills are mostly the same (about 22,000 a month, including the cellphone). Not much variation at all, but the petrol bill jumps in winter and summer, easing off in spring and autumn. > > The bar/cafe (smaller space than the house) is about > > 32,000 a month, but there are a lot of energy hungry devices (beer > > servers, food storage etc) that can't be turned off. > > Ouch. The only things I can turn off are lighting, aircon/heating, sound systems and so on. The gas bill is OK, water minimal, so its mostly power. Compared to the utilities bill though the main overhead is labour. > > > To get a work visa, your employer has to promise you will be paid > > > Y300,000 per month (note that he doesn't have to promise to pay it...). > > > > I thought it was still 250,000/month. > > I thought it had been raised recently... or is it just that I got a > "raise" from my paper sponsor last time I applied? I sponsored 2 new employees a fortnight ago, so I hope it is still 25. Perhaps it is different in Tokyo - I'll ask tomorrow. Why do you still need your sponsor? Don't you have PR or a toushikeiei status?